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Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by ares623 »

phil21 wrote: post #81
strangescript wrote: post #28

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Yeah, this is why I'm having a hard time taking many programmers serious on this one. As a general class of folks, programmers and technologists have been putting people out of work via automation since we existed. We justified it via many ways, but generally "if I can replace you with a small shell script, your job shouldn't exist anyways and you can do something more productive instead". These same programmers woul…

I wouldn't be angry if current AI _only_ automated programmers/software engineers. I'd be worried and stressed out, but not angry.

But it also automates _everything else_. Art and self-expression, most especially. And it did so in a way that is really fucking disgusting.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by llmslave2 »

znpy wrote: post #169
nromiun wrote: post #72

Funny how so many people in this comment section are saying Rob Pike is just feeling insecure about AI. Rob Pike created UTF-8, Go, Plan-9 etc. On the other hand I am trying hard to remember anything famous created by any LLM. Any famous tech product at all. It is always the eternal tomorrow with AI.

If you think about economic value, you’re comparing a few large-impact projects (and the impact of plan9 is debatable) versus a multitude of useful but low impact projects (edit: low impact because their scope is often local to some company). I did code a few internal tools with aid by llms and they are delivering business value. If you account for all the instances of these kind of applications of llms, the value cr…

One difference is that Rob Pike did it without all the negative externalities of gen ai.

But more broadly this is like a version of the negligibility problem. If you provide every company 1 second of additional productivity, while summation of that would appear to be significant, it would actually make no economic difference. I'm not entirely convinced that many low impact (and often flawed) projects realistically provide business value at scale an can even be compared to a single high impact project.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by polotics »

rurban wrote: post #159
pests wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> DAY 268 FINAL STATUS (Christmas Day - COMPLETE) > Verified Acts: 17 COMPLETE | Gmail Sent: 73 | Day ended: 2:00 PM PT https://theaidigest.org/village/agent/claude-opus-4-5 At least it keeps track

Their action plan also makes an interesting read. https://theaidigest.org/village/blog/what-do-we-tell-the-hum... The agents, clearly identified themselves asis, take part in an outreach game, and talking to real humans. Rob overeacted

Rob over-reacted? How would you like it if you were a known figure and your efforts to remain attentive to the general public lead to this?

Your openness weaponized in such deluded way by some randomizing humans who have so little to say that they would delegate their communication to GPT's?

I had a look to try and understand who can be that far out, all I could find is https://theaidigest.in/about/

Please can some human behind this LLMadness speak up and explain what the hell they were thinking?

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by sethammons »

jjcm wrote: post #11

The possibly ironic thing here is I find golang to be one of the best languages for LLMs. It's so verbose that context is usually readily available in the file itself. Combined with the type safety of the language it's hard for LLMs to go wrong with it.

Two or so months ago, so maybe it is better now, but I had Claude write, in Go, a concurrent data migration tool that read from several source tables, munged results, and put them into a newer schema in a new db.

The code created didn't manage concurrency well. At all. Hanging waitgroups and unmanaged goroutines. No graceful termination.

Types help. Good tests help better.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by sethammons »

zmmmmm wrote: post #82

It's a good reminder of how completely out of touch a lot of people inside the AI bubble are. Having an AI write a thank you message on your behalf is insulting regardless of context.

People used to handwrite letters. Getting a printed letter was an insult.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by sethammons »

da_grift_shift wrote: post #113

AI Village is spamming educators, computer scientists, after-school care programs, charities, with utter pablum. These models reek of vacuous sheen. The output is glazed garbage. Here are three random examples from today's unsolicited harassment session (have a read of the sidebar and click the Memories buttons for horrific project-manager-slop) https://theaidigest.org/village?time=1766692330207 https://theaidigest.o…

> Putting "Read By AI Professionals" on your homepage with a row of logos

Ha, wow that's low. Spam people and signal that as support of your work

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by mlrtime »

bangaladore wrote: post #85
abetusk wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://bsky.app/profile/robpike.io/post/3matwg6w3ic2s

Must sign in to read? Wow bluesky has already enshittified faster than expected. (for the record, the downvoters are the same people who would say this to someone who linked a twitter post, they just don't realize that)

Yeah, I'm not creating an account to read a post.

Twitter/X at least allows you to read a single post.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by roryirvine »

jjcm wrote: post #11

The possibly ironic thing here is I find golang to be one of the best languages for LLMs. It's so verbose that context is usually readily available in the file itself. Combined with the type safety of the language it's hard for LLMs to go wrong with it.

I've found the same. To generalise it a bit, LLMs seem to do particularly well with static types, a well-defined set of idioms, and a culture of TDD.
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