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iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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That’s a rather silly view to take. We have a phenomenon called “the first mover advantage” for a reason. Plenty of other markets and businesses operate just fine while operating in an environment that makes protecting individual innovation functionally impossible. Just look at any related to fast fashion (not that I think the fast fashion market is a healthy phenomenon) or any commodities market. Or for that matter,…

"plenty of other markets" have way smaller margins and are not nearly as robust an industry as software.

I don't understand. Robust markets don't have large margins. Why would a regulator even want markets with enormous margin? That's usually market failure.

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Hey, don't take it personally. Apple is a known innovator in the field of government bribery: https://www.theverge.com/news/737757/apple-president-donald-...

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Apple used to brag that “it just works”. That included peripherals it did not control. Nowadays, it can’t even have its own devices work correctly. Apple has stopped improving long ago, and it’s not regulation that’s at fault.

I was unconvinced till I switched my devices, one by one, to Apple products a few years ago. They really do just work, especially with specification abiding devices. Everything else feels flakey.

Except of course these things:

- Reliable internet sharing, especially when connection is spotty, and when your connection switches between operators or countries

- Making alarms randomly silent. I missed a flight once because of this. There is no excuse for this.

- Randomly not working AirPlay

- GPS is terrible compared to any of my previous Androids. Even my first Android in 2010 was better than this.

- Finding an operator can take a loooong time after crossing border

- Random restrictions in App Store, like no torrent clients

- Generally terrible keyboard for my native language (Hungarian). Prediction and basic accent fixing doesn’t work at all. The exception is when I don’t need to change a word with diacritics… when the keyboard’s dictionary clearly contains them

- Apple Maps is still a joke. Many times it doesn’t load the underlying map layer at all. I switch to Google Maps search for what I want, finding it, reading some info, looking some images, then switching back to Apple Maps, and it still doesn’t load. Also, navigation and speed limit information are unreliable to say the least.

- Heavily underdocumented MacOS virtualization API, and half the features can’t be used in a real environment, but these restrictions are completely undocumented

- Wanting to have a running DNS server is a challenge on MacOS

- Unusable GPU when no monitor is connected

- You basically need to turn off all security features in MacOS to allow some basic automation, like with FaceTime

- Generally terrible compatibility with anything non Apple. Do you want to show your photos on your friend’s random TV without hassle? Good luck.

- Many built in features (eg SSH, VNC) are heavily restricted, and good luck if you want to replace them cleanly. Most information on internet is “just use the built in solution”. Also they are many times completely insecure.

There are hacks for these, but “they just work” is not true at all. On the level of how “they just work”, top level Android and Windows devices are also on that level for more than a decade in case of Android, and at least 20 years for Windows (if not more). Maybe Apple TV is my only device which just works without hitting some quirks. Especially compared to my other TV and TV adjacent devices. But even here its FaceTime solution, let’s say “interesting”.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Your comment is absolutely spot on, no notes. Wish your attitude was more popular and prevalent around here. My guess is that before 2017 or so it used to be.

Apparently even Apple doesn't share your opinion. They haven't threatened to leave Europe, Japan or the United States in retaliation for App Store regulations.

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I really wonder what the technical detail is that makes it so much harder for this feature to work when your phone is outside the EU, does anyone know?

You can rest assured that Apple is paying hundreds of engineers to discover any potential solution and then mitigate it.

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Last time I checked the European Union was a political construct and not a phone manufacturer.

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Still don't get your point.

How can the failures to innovate from privates companies be the responsibility of a political union of different governments?

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Recently bought an apple watch for my mom and got it set up with her iphone. Almost instantly she notices that she cant accept WhatsApp calls on her watch, and after looking into it I found out that it was another one of those apple things where they assume youre obviously using facetime so that functionality isnt available for any other app. For context, in europe Whatsapp is the dominating messaging app and alot of…

WhatsApp did not have a dedicated Watch app until 1 or 2 months ago – it was not even possible to respond to WhatsApp messages on the Watch, only seeing the mirrored notifications was possible.

You can blame Apple for other things if that is the intention, but this particular one was a decision made by Meta and by Meta only.

Write to your regulator and make a complaint that Meta is keeping the WhatsApp stage gate.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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I actually have a problem with this. I want AirPods to be undeniably the best experience for me because I am fully locked into the Apple ecosystem, and I know many folks have complaints against that. I find it to be rather pleasurable to use compared to all the other alternatives out there. So if I have to start sacrificing my experience in favor of universal support, that really sucks.

But this isn't sacrificing your experience, you're free to keep using your Apple AirPods with the quality and reliability you'd expect from Apple. This just means other brands can create products with similar features to AirPods, and if they're not as good or reliable, well that's why you're paying Apple for theirs.

I see their point.

If Apple knew they would need to expand this feature past their gear, possible they’d never have implemented.

We may never know what stays unimplemented due to this.

(This is a neutral take - note I do not have a personal opinion formed in this “debate”.)

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Steve Jobs loved the iMac's terrible hockey puck mouse. Jony Ive is probably to blame for the terrible (yet very thin) butterfly keyboard making it into Apple laptops. However, these missteps do not prove that Apple doesn't care about user experience.

> told disgruntled iPhone 4 users that they were holding their phones wrong That was never proven. Although their PR response was atrocious.

> That was never proven

“All phones have sensitive areas,” Jobs wrote. “Just avoid holding it in this way.”

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2010/06/jobs-on-iphone-4-ant...

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/24/steve-jobs-describes-ip...

Jobs wasn't exactly wrong - bridging the antenna with your finger was not a good way to hold the iPhone 4.

What's hilarious is how they "fixed" it in software - by changing the signal bar display curve, and then making the lower bars appear taller.

https://9to5mac.com/2025/10/08/a-15-year-mystery-solved-the-...

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