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That seems like a criminal organization.
Really? When I think criminal organization I think "Mafia."
Your argument is that, among other things, a human trafficking network isn't a criminal organization?
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#172Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt
#173The cycle of proposing the same surveillance legislation under different names is exhausting. Chat Control, ProtectEU, Going Dark - same invasive proposals, different branding. What's particularly concerning is the metadata retention scope: "which websites you visit, and who is communicating with whom, when and how often" with "the broadest possible scope of application" including VPN services. This isn't about prote…
Pretty sure Google and meta are the ones that normalised mass surveillance...
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#174Well, Chat Control was approved by the Council, so I can't wait for the time Going Dark is also approved by ot.
EU, a democracy idol, now turning into a fascism idol.
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But they aren't working with industry here.
We aren't at that part of the EU legislative process yet. First the commission agrees on a framework, then the working groups work with industry to fill out the details of the framework. That's standard EU process.
Okay? The framework being proposed here is designed to enable universal communications surveillance. No combination of "details" would make that acceptable.
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#176The problem with "child abuse" is that some countries classify drawing things as "child abuse," or "rape," or "animal abuse." (Something I don't agree with.) I mentioned in another thread a few weeks back that I got raided by the British police last February for "uploading/downloading "illegal" anime artwork on one of the (anime) artwork websites we're criminally investigating." (Yes, the British police are criminall…
In addition to “drawing”, it’s also the loosely interpreted age that concerns me. Any drawing “deemed under 18” is just as criminalized as the actual crime. While there are many Instagram users who pretend to be above 18, many drawings of lewd acts, adding that the age is freely interpreted by judges… it’s a free field for general oppression.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
The left? The authoritarian politicians pushing this legislation in the EU are more leftist than right.
They're usually liberals, so right wing but they don't specifically hate homosexuals.
> They're usually liberals
The irony.
Aside from that I also thought EU is more left than right wing right now. Nothing what they try to push this term of office seems right wing to me.
Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt
#178The cycle of proposing the same surveillance legislation under different names is exhausting. Chat Control, ProtectEU, Going Dark - same invasive proposals, different branding. What's particularly concerning is the metadata retention scope: "which websites you visit, and who is communicating with whom, when and how often" with "the broadest possible scope of application" including VPN services. This isn't about prote…
Pretty sure Google and meta are the ones that normalised mass surveillance...
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Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt
#179The problem with "child abuse" is that some countries classify drawing things as "child abuse," or "rape," or "animal abuse." (Something I don't agree with.) I mentioned in another thread a few weeks back that I got raided by the British police last February for "uploading/downloading "illegal" anime artwork on one of the (anime) artwork websites we're criminally investigating." (Yes, the British police are criminall…
I'd be curious what would happen if you pointed the relevant authorities at any decently sized store selling manga. There's got to be at least one stereotypical sexualised 4000 year old loli vampire or whatever in there.
The sad truth is probably that they'd just shrug their arms and do nothing, since the surveillance and harassment is the point, and not even upholding the letter of the law, and much less its spirit.
Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt
#180The problem with "child abuse" is that some countries classify drawing things as "child abuse," or "rape," or "animal abuse." (Something I don't agree with.) I mentioned in another thread a few weeks back that I got raided by the British police last February for "uploading/downloading "illegal" anime artwork on one of the (anime) artwork websites we're criminally investigating." (Yes, the British police are criminall…
In addition to “drawing”, it’s also the loosely interpreted age that concerns me. Any drawing “deemed under 18” is just as criminalized as the actual crime. While there are many Instagram users who pretend to be above 18, many drawings of lewd acts, adding that the age is freely interpreted by judges… it’s a free field for general oppression.
> While there are many Instagram users who pretend to be above 18
Do you support robust and mandatory age verification to enforce existing rules on social media websites, like Instagram?