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Backing up Spotify

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Moral and legal discussion aside, this is technically very impressive. I also wouldn’t be surprised if this somehow kickstarts open source music generative AI from China.

This already exists and is interesting to play around with - https://github.com/ASLP-lab/DiffRhythm

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This is insane. I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. But this does seem like it will be a godsend for researche…

>The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumer

it's an archive to defend against Spotify going away. Remember when Netflix had everything, and then that eroded and now you can only rely on stuff that Netflix produced itself?

the average consumer will flock when Spotify ultimately enshitifies

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This is insane. I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. But this does seem like it will be a godsend for researche…

This leak will also be really useful to bad actors who will resell the music from this list without paying royalties to the artists.

Spotify fucks over most artists anyway, so who cares?

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Uh, cool, I guess? I want to applaud that, but, first off, unless you are OpenAI or Facebook, it is not exactly plausibly easy to participate in the festivities. Even if I had spare 300 TB laying around, how the fuck do I download that? But, more importantly, I cannot even say "good for you", because I don't actually think it is good for Anna's Archive. I wouldn't touch that thing, if I was them. Do we even have any…

I am in no way saying that this is cheap but 300 TB will set you back a little less than $6k with tax. Very attainable for people other than OpenAI and Facebook. And it's not crazy at all to snag a server with enough bays to house all those.

I have a Supermicro 24 bay 2U in my house with an array around half that size in it. It’s not prohibitive.

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Not necessarily at the same quality though.

I assume in most cases they're literally the same files. Youtube runs "topic" channels for music that distributors have sent it. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYOa-hi751OKY2zGJJv6V2A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSSxnv1_J2g (same thing, but on an official channel instead)

You can load any youtube music song on youtube by just removing the "music" subdomain.

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The metadata is probably more useful than the music files themselves arguably

Especially since they scraped Spotify's popularity rating as well

I can't think of many situations where that would be particularly valuable, considering it favours recent plays and the cutoff date is already almost half a year old.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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> The Anna’s archive group is ideologically motivated. They’re definitely not doing this for AI companies. They have a page directly addressed to AI companies, offering them "enterprise-level" access to their complete archives in exchange for tens of thousands of dollars. AI may not be their original/primary motivation but they are evidently on board with facilitating AI labs piracy-maxxing.

That made me chuckle, Enterprise Level Access. I mean as ai company, that’s incredibly cheap and instead of torrenting something, why get it. That price is just a fraction of a engineers salary.

But then you have a money trail connecting the company unambiguously to copyright violations on a scale that is arguably larger than Napster.

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This leak will also be really useful to bad actors who will resell the music from this list without paying royalties to the artists.

this argument is so tired. most artists dont really care about streaming or selling their music. most of their real money comes from touring, merch, and people somehow interacting with them. most musicians just want to make music, express themselves, and connect with folks who enjoy their stuff or want to make music with em. Even some of the largest artists in the world only receive a few grand a year from streaming.…

Spotify paid out ten billion dollars to artists in 2024. This is not small potatoes - total 2024 music industry merchandise sales was around $14b.

Youtube also paid out literally 50x more to creators in 2024 than Patreon had total subscriptions on the platform.

These big platform payouts matter a lot.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Especially since they scraped Spotify's popularity rating as well

I can't think of many situations where that would be particularly valuable, considering it favours recent plays and the cutoff date is already almost half a year old.

Helps train an algorithm to figure out which music is popular, as a training signal
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