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Re: MIT professor shot at his Massachusetts home dies

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Post by acdha »

richardfeynman wrote: post #118
jimbo808 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your only data point is the ethnicity of the victim, and that's all it takes for you to suggest it was a hate crime?

Another data point is that Jews are getting killed and assaulted around the world. With that said, I agree that for now there's no actual evidence supporting this allegation. But I wouldn't be totally shocked to learn that his ethnicity or zionist beliefs had something to do with this, if indeed he was Jewish (which hasn't been confirmed).

The problem is that most people have many parts of their identities and you don’t know which factored into the attack. It certainly wouldn’t be a shock if it was anti-Semitism but it’s unclear why he would have been singled out from the many thousands of other Jews in the Boston area.

This is problematic because most of the sources saying he was Jewish and pro-Israel seem to be quoting each other. The Wikipedia reference was added yesterday and removed today because the linked sources didn’t say anything about his religion, and I haven’t seen any sources about pro-Israel stances which I’d think would be easier to find if he was outspoken enough to be targeted. It’s still quite possible that he was the unfortunate victim of a stalker-most of the professors I know have had to work with security to keep someone off campus because colleges attract a certain brand of mentally ill people–but it seems odd that these sources are so confident about this assertion without citing sources.

Based on e.g. https://news.mit.edu/2018/nuno-loureiro-faculty-physics-1016 it really seems like his passion was physics and I think we should commemorate someone who tried to improve humanity’s understanding of the universe. If new details emerge, I’m sure they’ll be posted here.

Re: MIT professor shot at his Massachusetts home dies

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Post by IAmBroom »

Dayshine wrote: post #166
sonotathrowaway wrote: post #158

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Genuinely believing that only one person in America dies in a home invasion is hard to take seriously. I imagine most preteens in America have a better grasp of reality than the one you’re espousing here.

I just checked UK stats and from my reading of ONS's homicide data it's entirely possible it's around zero from burglary gone wrong. The us is only 5 times bigger

IIRC hand guns are slightly harder to obtain in the UK. And also slightly less legal for civilians to own.

Re: MIT professor shot at his Massachusetts home dies

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Post by IAmBroom »

mocha_nate wrote: post #131
Hobadee wrote: post #122

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If we are doing random predictions based on scant evidence, mine is a professional hit. Neighbor said he heard 3 shots. If it was a "pop pop...pop", that's 2 in the body, 1 in the head. Professional assassin.

My prediction: time traveler. Guy goes back in time to prevent an unspeakable tragedy that happened in the future. The simplest solution to alter the course of human history was this attack. We'll never find the killer because as soon as his work was completed, he vaporized into the ether as his timeline was culled.

I don't see how it plausibly could be anything else.

Re: MIT professor shot at his Massachusetts home dies

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Post by IAmBroom »

nec4b wrote: post #161
watwut wrote: post #148

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I would point out that when it comes to these, right, far right and fascists win the numbers. And right now, it is far right who is having genocidal rhetorics.

Which far right or fascist ruler came close to what Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot did in terms of numbers?

Which of those three that you named are killing people "right now"?

Re: MIT professor shot at his Massachusetts home dies

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Post by IAmBroom »

Supermancho wrote: post #87
wat10000 wrote: post #80

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When it comes to small-scale crime like this, the smartest thing is typically not to do it at all. So the people who do it will generally not be very smart.

Indeed, 8:30p is no different from 2p or 10a for the act. It's most likely a matter of happenstance. It happened to be the warmest time of the day (even though it was evening). Maybe the thinking was someone was home to help them find the valuables, maybe not. > 8:30p seems like a dumb time for a home robbery. The assertion that there is some optimization for some specific imagined motivation, is literal fantasy.

It's a fantasy that strongly correlates with facts. Home robberies are not evenly committed throughout the day.

Re: MIT professor shot at his Massachusetts home dies

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Post by IAmBroom »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #124
JuniperMesos wrote: post #75

My prediction is that it was a random home invasion robbery committed by someone with multiple previous felonies who had no idea that the person living in the house they were trying to rob was a MIT professor. But I have no more information than anyone else does, I'm making a low-confidence educated guess, and at some point in the near future it's very likely that the professionals whose job it is to investigate seri…

I would assume that the most likely options for for "rich person shot in home" are: * Drug dealer * Cheating on spouse and someone got jealous * Suicide

* Drug-addled family member with a history of violence.

Re: MIT professor shot at his Massachusetts home dies

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Post by JuniperMesos »

wat10000 wrote: post #159
JuniperMesos wrote: post #157

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You started the fight by making the (leftist-coded) comment about CEOs, that other comment was the response.

Huh. I figured "some CEOs do nasty things that get people killed, and get away with it" was a politically neutral observation of fact.

In the context of discussing a hypothetical murder committed during a home invasion robbery and murder, implying that a smarter criminal would become a CEO instead so they could legally kill people is an attempt to equate running a firm with committing home invasion robberies and murders. This is an extremely ideological statement, not neutral in the least; and the specific ideological framework grounding it is a certain type of leftism.

Re: MIT professor shot at his Massachusetts home dies

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Post by IAmBroom »

richardfeynman wrote: post #118
jimbo808 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your only data point is the ethnicity of the victim, and that's all it takes for you to suggest it was a hate crime?

Another data point is that Jews are getting killed and assaulted around the world. With that said, I agree that for now there's no actual evidence supporting this allegation. But I wouldn't be totally shocked to learn that his ethnicity or zionist beliefs had something to do with this, if indeed he was Jewish (which hasn't been confirmed).

Left-handed people are getting killed and assaulted around the world, but no one ever seems to care about that open conspiracy!

Every time a lefty gets cut off in traffic, it's just one more data point.

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