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Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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If you ever worked with people who fully grew up with modern social media and just entered the workforce you know we're already doomed, there is no recovery from this, that's why governments are starting to act

alarmist nonsense

By all means tell us why

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scrollable video is killing the Dems in general, not just because of Israel. It's like all the worst of local news crime reporting on steroids.

Each party is splitting into factions. I imagine the establishment of both parties think social media is a problem

Maybe. I think it's overall a rightward shift, only in urban cores is it accelerating a leftward shift. To the extent that it is motivating marginal voters to vote (which I think it is), it is also benefitting the right. It's also breaking down ethnic voting patterns in a way that benefits the right, I think.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Why ban social media when ad-supported media is the culprit? Remove the incentive (to get users to doom scroll, to polarize, to impulse buy…) and you change the behavior. I remember when social media was sane 15+ years ago. The problem is the business model, not socializing. It's crazy to ban it when being a teen is the beginning of socializing!

I don't think it's just the ads, I mean we had magazines, TV, and the web, they all had advertising, and no population-level impact on child & teen mental health impact was observed as these were adopted. Then we got the one-two punch of social media apps on phones, and everywhere we saw these get adopted, we saw depression and anxiety increase en masse. My own theory is that if you have to pick one thing it's the ph…

> we had magazines, TV, and the web, they all had advertising, and no population-level impact on child & teen mental health impact was observed as these were adopted

That is not true. Distorted body perception, anorexia etc. due to omnipresent photoshopped models in magazines and poster ads where a thing decades ago.

Things escalated with social media, but there were issues long before that.

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These platforms are heavy censored with a direct line to governments. This will push kids to other platforms with less censorship. That's a major benefit. As we go down this road platforms will need to be banned for everyone. For example VK wasn't on the list and they won't implement age checks. They and many other sites will need to be banned until you are left with a white list of acceptance sites. Add in age verif…

Kids will learn how to overcome the ban. VPNs will become the standard. This gives governments an excuse to ban VPNs in the name of 'thinking of the children'. That might be the point though.

Historically consumer access to security/privacy tools has always been something the govt has wanted to restrict or prevent entirely.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Why ban social media when ad-supported media is the culprit? Remove the incentive (to get users to doom scroll, to polarize, to impulse buy…) and you change the behavior. I remember when social media was sane 15+ years ago. The problem is the business model, not socializing. It's crazy to ban it when being a teen is the beginning of socializing!

It's crazy that social media is banned but kids are still subject to gambling ads prior to or after watching the footy on free to air TV.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Florida passed a similar law, and a bunch of other states are attempting to but are blocked by federal courts. Will be interesting to see if the tech industry allows it, or decides to break up the federal government before it becomes too powerful.

Break up the federal government?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn%27s_Early_Light:_Taking_B...

That is basically what the Heritage Foundation wants to do.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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I feel like everyone in this thread is assuming this is a good faith move by Australia to help kids in school and with socialization. I think phones and social media are harmful, but I get the sense there's a political motive behind this. We've been hearing politicians complain for years that they're losing the youth when it comes to long-standing foreign policy positions, etc... And suddenly they ban social media. R…

All popular grooming platforms were already excluded from this policy

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Quite a decisive move by the Australian government. I don't know if it's a move in the right direction or not but the research clearly shows that around the time social media became mainstream, teens' and preteens' mental health took a nosedive (Especially girls).

Not just mental health: ability to concentrate + engagement with people around us.

There is no evidence that social media use shortens attention spans or reduces social engagement offline. This is a meme, and a false one.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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I feel like everyone in this thread is assuming this is a good faith move by Australia to help kids in school and with socialization. I think phones and social media are harmful, but I get the sense there's a political motive behind this. We've been hearing politicians complain for years that they're losing the youth when it comes to long-standing foreign policy positions, etc... And suddenly they ban social media. R…

Agreed. I'm no fan of social media, and especially not a fan of TikTok and Instagram. But I really doubt this is about the kids more than it is about getting another foothold along the path of controlling internet access wholesale.

Re: Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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Saw a screenshot last night of someone who can't get into JIRA (or some other Atlassian product) until they either submit two forms of government ID or record a face scan. Seems like a great and effective initiative /s

Text of the screen:

"Your Atlassian account is not age verified.

Laws in your country require us to verify your age before accessing some products, including Jira and Confluence. This process takes 5-10 minutes. This can be done using two pieces of government ID or by performing a face scan."

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