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The "Mad Men" in 4K on HBO Max Debacle

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Post by philistine »

djmips wrote: post #169
philistine wrote: post #162

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I think you're ill-informed. The Pixar movies were re-rendered completely. They did not take a 35mm negative, or an old file, to transfer it. Pixar has the ability to load the Toy Story project files, and use the current version of RenderMan to make a new final version. It's completely unique among the industry.

But IIRC there was some color grading gaffe because the original colors were precompensated for film ( they originally filmed the renders ) - but this lead to oversaturation and color changes in the digital renders. So in some way they did meet a similar fate.

Absolutely, but OP was thinking of colours being messed up because of a format transfer.

They would have needed to look at the 35mm negative of Toy Story from '95, picked up the colours from there to then put an intermediate colour correction step. They didn't do it, which is a shame. We lost artistic intent.

Re: The "Mad Men" in 4K on HBO Max Debacle

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Post by thesuitonym »

philistine wrote: post #162
thesuitonym wrote: post #92

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What happened to the early Pixar movies isn't at all the same, though. They weren't remastered, they were just transferred to a media that they were not originally mastered for.

I think you're ill-informed. The Pixar movies were re-rendered completely. They did not take a 35mm negative, or an old file, to transfer it. Pixar has the ability to load the Toy Story project files, and use the current version of RenderMan to make a new final version. It's completely unique among the industry.

That's not at all what I'm talking about. I know it's confusing because I used the word "transferred," but if you don't put your own misunderstanding into my statement, you'll notice that I didn't say from a 35mm negative. It's just a complete transfer of the frames as they were meant for film but crucially, not from film, into a digital file.

Re: The "Mad Men" in 4K on HBO Max Debacle

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Post by globular-toast »

iso1631 wrote: post #91
globular-toast wrote: post #13

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It's even weirder when you consider how big of a deal this was for Star Trek only a few years ago (well maybe more than a few...). You would have thought people in the business would know about this.

They spent a lot of money doing a decent remastering job of TOS and TNG. The public did not spend a lot of money on buying these remasters - they lost a lot of money. The DS9 documentary "What we left behind" had some HD reproduction. It was great, and I was lucky enough to see DS9 on a big screen at an semi-arty cinema in Hackney (not a chain, but did have popcorn), but doing this type of production is expensive . A…

> Nowadays a whopping 4 in 5 people in America are using their phone at the same time as watching TV, they simply aren't paying attention.

I thought it was a lot, but had no idea it was that high. Man, phones really are like crack to us. One of the main reasons I like having a projector setup at home and no "TV" is when I put a movie on it means a) it's worth dedicating hours to and b) we really actually watch it because the room is dark and it fills our field of view.

All this time I've been wondering how people watch the mindless crap that's on TV. I can feel my brain rotting away as I look at that stuff. But now I realise the answer: they're not watching it.

How depressing. Well I guess I'll have to make do with ~50 years of quality and if it ever changes I'll consider it a bonus.

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Post by 5555624 »

sgt wrote: post #152
5555624 wrote: post #143

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It's streaming, for free, on Tubi

Not available outside the US, I think. Torrents are then just more convenient.

United States, Canada, Mexico, Australia, United Kingdom. Parts of Latin America: Costa Rica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Puerto Rico.

If you want to pirate it, with yt-dlp and the URL, you can download items from the Tubi web site. (Don't ask me how I know.)

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