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Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Am I in the minority when I actually like those AI features on GitHub? The ability to interrogate any open source codebase is __amazing__, this feature alone has saved me days of work/research. The AI code reviews are nothing to write home about, but occasionally catch stuff that I would've missed, a net benefit for me. I don't really get all the outrage... Sure, having an "Ask AI" Clippy-like thing in your face everywhere gets old quick, but at least on GitHub I find it non-obtrusive and often actually useful.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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I have sympathy for some of the GitHub complaints. otoh just went to try to signup for Codeberg and it's down ... 95% uptime over the last 2 weeks? https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg

99.95 from something I use to do work is non negotiable.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Look, how is number to go up without constant AI bullshit? Won't somebody think of the shareholders!

MS in particular _really_ seems to be sacrificing itself on the altar of Roko's Basilisk; they appear totally incapable of doing _anything_ that isn't AI-branded anymore.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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I don't agree with this at all. I think the reason Github is so prominent is the social network aspects it has built around Git, which created strong network effects that most developers are unwilling to part with. Maintainers don't want to loose their stars and the users don't want to loose the collective "audit" by the github users. Things like number of stars on a repository, number of forks, number of issues answ…

> Things like number of stars on a repository, number of forks, number of issues answered, number of followers for an account. All these things are powerful indicators of quality, and like it or not are now part of modern software engineering. I hate that this is perceived as generally true. Stars can be farmed and gamed; and the value of a star does not decay over time. Issues can be automatically closed, or answere…

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Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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That's rough ... it is a bad, bad world out there.

Try exposing a paswordless SSH server to outside to see what happens. It'll be tried immediately, non-stop. Now, all the servers I run has no public SSH ports, anymore. This is also why I don't expose home-servers to internet. I don't want that chaos at my doorstep.

Yeah no need for public ssh. Or if you do pick a random port and fail2ban or better just whitelist the one IP you are using for the duration of that session.

To avoid needing SSH just send your logs and metrics out and do something to autodeploy securely then you rarely need to be in. Or use k8s :)

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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To be fair this has more to do with Github Actions than Github, which from the beginning was never really going to rival any professional solution. The people at Zig should use proper CI tools and not something that a big service provider is offering as an afterthought.

Which professional solution do you prefer?

Im using Jenkins, which i know is controversial here, but it has been rock solid since years for me.

And there exist a lot of specialized solutions out there, where the business model is purely CI.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Try exposing a paswordless SSH server to outside to see what happens. It'll be tried immediately, non-stop. Now, all the servers I run has no public SSH ports, anymore. This is also why I don't expose home-servers to internet. I don't want that chaos at my doorstep.

Yeah, I have been thinking about hosting a small internet facing service on my home server, but I’m just not willing to take the risk. I’d do it on a separate internet connection, but not on my main one.

Would tailscale or cloudflare do the trick. Let them connect to the server.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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I don’t remember AI being used as a widespread marketing term until 2-3 years ago. Before that it was just more of a vague tech thing you’d sometimes see, but now every single app seems to have reframed their business to be about AI agents.

There have been at least 3 waves of AI before the LLM generation. 70s , 80s and late 90s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter Early 2010s had a lot of neural networks AI stuff going on and it certainly became a minor hype cycle as well though that kind of resulted in the current LLM wave.

There was also a small chatbot bubble around 2014-2016 (Microsoft Tay kinda blew it out of the water, and it never recovered), though companies did seem a bit skittish about using the term 'AI' at that point.
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