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Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by LogicFailsMe »

troupo wrote: post #169
LogicFailsMe wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a question for lawyers to resolve. IANAL but I have great faith in their ability to impose arbitrary roadblocks to anything as needed. And even if ultimately overturned, just making the bottom line more affordable allowing casting would seem to be the "shareholder value" friendly message. Further, there was already precedent for such behavior on Netflix with some content being downloadable for later viewing an…

> I'm a bit surprised that you think Google and the streaming services are helpless here They own about 0 rights to the content they stream. Netflix almost collapsed when major studios pulled their content to create competing platforms. That's why they spent to the tune of 8 billion dollars a year to produce their own content and flooded the service with mediocre movies and a bunch of Korean movies and series. Also t…

I will probably never stop being astounded by people who embrace enahittification rather than losing a silly thing like Netflix. At some point, the free market works this out, but I'm guessing people can stay irrational about things like this longer than they ought to.

Other than Wednesday, at this point there's nothing I want to watch on that service anymore. I truly do not miss it.

What I do miss these days is all of the wonderful summaries and presentations about AI and other research papers on YouTube that are now dominated by horrific notebookLM AI slop podcasts.

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by brnt »

intrinseca wrote: post #166
nmcfarl wrote: post #67

This is going to be painful for people in a way which I haven’t seen discussed here yet. A year ago I went on vacation with my family, and the kids wanted to watch Netflix on VRBO‘s TV and so I logged in to my account on the tv. And of course I forgot to log it out when I left - so, predictably, the next people decided they hated my taste and went through and deleted all my likes and dislikes, and rated I swear 100 t…

This is why I take a Chromecast with me on vacation. Put in the WiFi password and job done. Works better and faster than most smart TVs.

I always bring a USB drive. All TVs play from USB.

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

Terretta wrote: post #147
ffsm8 wrote: post #130

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I wish there was a service like steam for videos: not subscription but high confidence purchase of video content available "forever" (even if they remove it from the purchasing options, license would remain). Personally I watch so little tv/movies that any subscription was always overpaying. I still did it for a while, because the price wasn't high enough to push me to seek out other options. I'm no longer subbing an…

> I wish there was a service like steam for videos: not subscription but high confidence purchase of video content available "forever" (even if they remove it from the purchasing options, license would remain). In general, iTunes content purchase licenses are owned in perpetuity. You do need to download the bits and have the files on hand, as (a) Apple may lose the right to re-deliver the bits to you, or (b) you may…

>In general, iTunes content purchase licenses are owned in perpetuity.

All my purchased music on iTunes disappeared. Luckily I had kept copies of the files.

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by troupo »

LogicFailsMe wrote: post #171
troupo wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm a bit surprised that you think Google and the streaming services are helpless here They own about 0 rights to the content they stream. Netflix almost collapsed when major studios pulled their content to create competing platforms. That's why they spent to the tune of 8 billion dollars a year to produce their own content and flooded the service with mediocre movies and a bunch of Korean movies and series. Also t…

I will probably never stop being astounded by people who embrace enahittification rather than losing a silly thing like Netflix. At some point, the free market works this out, but I'm guessing people can stay irrational about things like this longer than they ought to. Other than Wednesday, at this point there's nothing I want to watch on that service anymore. I truly do not miss it. What I do miss these days is all…

> I will probably never stop being astounded by people who embrace enahittification rather than losing a silly thing like Netflix.

I will probably never stop being astounded by people who read simple unambiguous texts and then go on having arguments with voices in their heads.

> at some point, the free market works this out

Oh, it has. You're looking at what the free market has worked out.

> Other than Wednesday, at this point there's nothing I want to watch on that service anymore.

Indeed. And literally told you why. Let me quote myself:

--- start quote ---

Netflix almost collapsed when major studios pulled their content to create competing platforms. That's why they spent to the tune of 8 billion dollars a year to produce their own content and flooded the service with mediocre movies and a bunch of Korean movies and series.

--- end quote ---

Look at how a powerful non-helpless streaming service (in your head) could do nothing against rights holders imposing their will on it (in the real world).

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by m463 »

lunias wrote: post #22

I don't understand Netflix's decision, but I'm long past caring about things like this. I've had PCs hooked up to all of my televisions for the past 15+ years because of how limiting and frustrating using any other device to play media from can be.

> I don't understand Netflix's decision

seems pretty obvious to me:

netflix wants to charge separately for mobile device vs television.

if you "cast" you don't need two subscriptions/account options.

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by LogicFailsMe »

troupo wrote: post #174
LogicFailsMe wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will probably never stop being astounded by people who embrace enahittification rather than losing a silly thing like Netflix. At some point, the free market works this out, but I'm guessing people can stay irrational about things like this longer than they ought to. Other than Wednesday, at this point there's nothing I want to watch on that service anymore. I truly do not miss it. What I do miss these days is all…

> I will probably never stop being astounded by people who embrace enahittification rather than losing a silly thing like Netflix. I will probably never stop being astounded by people who read simple unambiguous texts and then go on having arguments with voices in their heads. > at some point, the free market works this out Oh, it has. You're looking at what the free market has worked out. > Other than Wednesday, at…

Yes, might as well bend over here it comes again. Because if you try anything different, you are simply doomed to fail. Just ask total losers like Jeff Bezos or Jensen Huang about that. Netflix disrupted Blockbuster, now we need to disrupt Netflix. That's how progress works. Annoyed by the present yet optimistic for the future. And nothing warms the cockles of my hearts like watching the naysayers like you get proven wrong yet again.

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by troupo »

LogicFailsMe wrote: post #176
troupo wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I will probably never stop being astounded by people who embrace enahittification rather than losing a silly thing like Netflix. I will probably never stop being astounded by people who read simple unambiguous texts and then go on having arguments with voices in their heads. > at some point, the free market works this out Oh, it has. You're looking at what the free market has worked out. > Other than Wednesday, at…

Yes, might as well bend over here it comes again. Because if you try anything different, you are simply doomed to fail. Just ask total losers like Jeff Bezos or Jensen Huang about that. Netflix disrupted Blockbuster, now we need to disrupt Netflix. That's how progress works. Annoyed by the present yet optimistic for the future. And nothing warms the cockles of my hearts like watching the naysayers like you get proven…

> Because if you try anything different, you are simply doomed to fail. Just ask total losers like Jeff Bezos or Jensen Huang about that.

I'll give you one guess on how Amazon Prime operates, and whether or not it applies the same rules license/rights holders impose.

> Netflix disrupted Blockbuster, now we need to disrupt Netflix.

So it started with bold claims about "all we need is an official API for streaming to lock out license holders" and about something about "free market and disruption of Netflix".

> And nothing warms the cockles of my hearts like watching the naysayers like you get proven wrong yet again.

Again, you're arguing with voices in your head.

Adieu.

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Post by throw7 »

jspann wrote: post #120
throw7 wrote: post #88

Chromecast is a dead product. Google killed it, but I think in this case it was when they lost a patent case in good ole Texas. I have several chromecast devices and have no interest in the replacement, google tv streamer. "... the decision was made to improve the customer experience." Of course that's a lie, but it is ironic, as the reason why chromecast was initially conceived was that TV UX is horrible.

What was the Texas patent case?

Had to look it up (the texas comment is just a jab at texas being an amenable place to file IP infringement cases which is something i remember back then reading):

https://www.reuters.com/legal/google-owes-3387-mln-chromecas...

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by LogicFailsMe »

troupo wrote: post #177
LogicFailsMe wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, might as well bend over here it comes again. Because if you try anything different, you are simply doomed to fail. Just ask total losers like Jeff Bezos or Jensen Huang about that. Netflix disrupted Blockbuster, now we need to disrupt Netflix. That's how progress works. Annoyed by the present yet optimistic for the future. And nothing warms the cockles of my hearts like watching the naysayers like you get proven…

> Because if you try anything different, you are simply doomed to fail. Just ask total losers like Jeff Bezos or Jensen Huang about that. I'll give you one guess on how Amazon Prime operates, and whether or not it applies the same rules license/rights holders impose. > Netflix disrupted Blockbuster, now we need to disrupt Netflix. So it started with bold claims about "all we need is an official API for streaming to l…

I dealt with people like you my entire career. You were never right in the long run, but your sorts were the masters of kiss up and kick down so somehow despite never seeing the locomotives coming down the tunnels, you survived.

But I got rich (oh who am I kidding? Really rich) investing against your viewpoints the whole way. And for that I say thank you for being the way you are. May you enable a whole new generation of multi-millionaires with your negativity.

Toodles! And by all means don't respond and reinforce my opinion of you even more.

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by fireflash38 »

mrguyorama wrote: post #152
mingus88 wrote: post #44

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I’ve run homebrew DVRs since the MythTV/Hauppauge era and it’s true My family won’t adapt to anything in the living room with a keyboard and mouse, and getting a reliable remote on any PC based solution is often problematic.

Not even those dirt cheap bluetooth devices with a trackpad and mini keyboard? Those are great and it just works. Or what about the Steam Controller? It's UX is similar to some nicer smart TV interfaces. The real solution is you build an app that is nice for your family to use and just tells the boxes what to play. Sure hope your family doesn't use iPhones!

If you're using Firefox or run Linux, you won't be getting the stream quality you have paid for.
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