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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by fn-mote »

danpalmer wrote: post #110
Nextgrid wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're circumventing the method of paying for content. I disagree. If you were buying every advertised product and falling for every advertised scam then fair enough. But assuming you were ignoring them, there is no issue with offloading the thing you would do anyway to a computer and save everyone the time/bandwidth.

The advertiser is buying the right to put an advert in front of you, not the right to a sale. Whether they convert you is up to them, their product, their offering, etc. I think you can never buy a single product from an ad and this is still piracy. That said, a lot of advertising is not performance/pay-per-click focused as you've described and is instead brand advertising. The point of the Coca-Cola christmas ads is…

> The advertiser is buying the right to put an advert in front of you

Is this the way YouTube ads work? If I don’t load the ad, is someone paying?

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Post by charcircuit »

binarymax wrote: post #130

Why. Why are they doing this. It’s the same with Netflix. I don’t understand. What is the metric that goes up when they show a couple giant videos.

It may reduce decision paralysis and they are hoping their recommendation is good enough.

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Post by pessimizer »

haunter wrote: post #127

Funnily porn sites do 100x better UX than Youtube. Both on web and mobile. Probably because there is no monopoly but actual competition among them.

Yes, Manwin competes with Mindgeek competes with Aylo competes with Ethical Capital Partners.

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Post by blitz_skull »

danpalmer wrote: post #59
tcfhgj wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blocking ads is hardly "pirating" content

To be clear, this is not a value judgement. I pirate content sometimes, and I use adblockers, but ad blocking is definitely piracy – you're circumventing the method of paying for content. I realise that online ads have other implications such as tracking that, say, a blu-ray rip downloaded from a torrent doesn't have, but the reason for piracy doesn't change the fact that it is.

lol, no it’s not pirating.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by insin »

Low _usable_ information density is one of the main things I made Control Panel for YouTube [^0] to tackle, especially in Subscriptions.

On a 1080p monitor, my unmodified Subscriptions page currently has 6 fully-visible thumbnails, consisting of 3 livestreams from people I only subscribe to for videos, 1 watched video, 1 stream VOD (which I'll never watch), and 1 unwatched video, so that's a score of 1/6. Scroll down and you start getting into more watched videos, stream VODs, the unwanted Shorts shelf, thumbnails for Upcoming videos (i.e. videos which can't be watched), and videos from people I don't even subscribe to (via YouTube's recently-added Collaborations feature).

With everything in Control Panel for YouTube enabled and a minium of 5 videos per row configured, I have 15 unwatched or partially watched (up to a configurable %) videos every time. Same thing for Home, in which other things I don't want such as Mixes and Playlists can also be hidden.

It also tends to have fixes for the other things people rightfully complain about when YouTube comes up in these threads, such as (reads down the page) blocking ads and hiding promoted content, hiding Shorts everywhere, automatically switching to the original audio for auto-dubbed videos, hiding Related videos when they appear below the video pushing comments even further down, fixing the new oversized video controls and huge videos in the Related sidebar, etc. etc.

[^0] https://soitis.dev/control-panel-for-youtube

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by rjmorris »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #33
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

I used to pay for YouTube premium. I stopped doing that, uninstalled the apps, and now use it through the browser with adblockers. (Yes, on my phone and iPad.) It works so well I’ve gotten at least half a dozen neighbours to do the same. If you haven’t tried it, it’s a definitive step up in UX.

YouTube hasn't been working for me past two weeks with uBlock Origin. Video doesn't play.

I had the same problem. Updating uBlock Origin fixed it.

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Post by charcircuit »

schmuckonwheels wrote: post #120

It's difficult to capture into words how much contempt I hold for Google and Amazon, two companies which lost their way long ago and are now actively user-hostile. YouTube has gotten worse with every release. Endless, pointless UI changes. Sneaky resolution downgrades. When your video says "Auto 1080p" it's like 480p quality, manually choose 1080p and watch it change. Amazon has been working overtime to make your exp…

>entire energy is devoted to making their customer's lives more miserable

If these changes are not hurting user metrics are they really making their lives miserable? When you are optimizing an experience for billions of users, numbers are the only thing you can trust.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by koakuma-chan »

fn-mote wrote: post #168
koakuma-chan wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh shit https://itc.ua/en/news/ublock-origin-lite-ad-blocker-has-bee...

Parent should include text not just a link. UBlock Origin Lite pulled from the Firefox extensions after being flagged for policy violation, now only available from GitHub.

"The Firefox version of uBO Lite will cease to exist, I am dropping support because of the added burden of dealing with AMO nonsensical and hostile review process. "

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/issues/197#issueco...

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Post by 1over137 »

insin wrote: post #175

Low _usable_ information density is one of the main things I made Control Panel for YouTube [^0] to tackle, especially in Subscriptions. On a 1080p monitor, my unmodified Subscriptions page currently has 6 fully-visible thumbnails, consisting of 3 livestreams from people I only subscribe to for videos, 1 watched video, 1 stream VOD (which I'll never watch), and 1 unwatched video, so that's a score of 1/6. Scroll down…

> On a 1080p monitor…

There’s your problem. You have normal hardware. The rich SV folks at google are probably all using 6k monitors. (only half joking)

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by tailrecursion »

danpalmer wrote: post #110
Nextgrid wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're circumventing the method of paying for content. I disagree. If you were buying every advertised product and falling for every advertised scam then fair enough. But assuming you were ignoring them, there is no issue with offloading the thing you would do anyway to a computer and save everyone the time/bandwidth.

The advertiser is buying the right to put an advert in front of you, not the right to a sale. Whether they convert you is up to them, their product, their offering, etc. I think you can never buy a single product from an ad and this is still piracy. That said, a lot of advertising is not performance/pay-per-click focused as you've described and is instead brand advertising. The point of the Coca-Cola christmas ads is…

No, piracy is defined as stealing a vendor's exclusivity by making copies and putting them up on a web site. Ad blocking is not the same as making copies and distributing.

You might as well argue that covering your ears during a TV advertisement is piracy. That's a strange definition of the word if I ever saw one.

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