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Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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Link to Worldcat book information: https://search.worldcat.org/title/1423132421 Alibris link: https://www.alibris.com/The-Innovators-Dilemma-When-New-Tech...

thanks, gp's google link was unusable for me (apparently my activity is unusual)

I thought the Google search link was some facetious joke at first. I’ve only seen people share a search result as a sarcastic “lmgtfy” response.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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I'd be very surprised if "consumer computer" will be anything but a niche thing in 25 years.

I have been hearing the same for the last 20 years, if not longer, and yet the consumer computer remains strong.

> consumer computer remains strong

Besides techies I'm seeing more and more people not even having a personal computer at all, doing most of their "computing" on their phone and using their work computer for the rare task that does require a real computer.

The younger generations have actually regressed in computer proficiency, file management, etc.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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> But WiFi dies after waking from sleep, and bluetooth worked once then died. That sounds like a hardware compatibility bug to me and not Bazzite's fault - I don't have those issues on my ThinkPad Z13, nor on my GPD Win Mini 2024.

I both 100% agree with you and also don't think our opinion matters. The general consumer isn't going to hear "the manufacturer hasn't upstreamed stable drivers to the kernel" and suddenly stop blaming Linux if the hardware works in Windows.

The general consumer does not install an os and hardware with linux reinstalled tends not to have these problems

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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I think the HN crowd and the public at large have different ideas of usability. The "I want to save the file on my computer that I own" resonates with us. But there are a lot of advantages to a mobile like experience. There's no viruses, you never lose files, apps don't lock up your device, and so on. The problem isn't really the experience being something like devices as a service. It's that the providers are a rent…

_Maybe_ no viruses is accurate most of the time, but certainly this cannot be extended to no malware. Mobile platforms are 90% malware/spyware.

It doesn't help that the big tech advertising platforms are making money off pushing ads peddling investment scams and malware. So long as there is a financial incentive to make money in ways that harm "users" things will only get worse. Governments have failed consumers.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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I didn't really get it until I Airdropped a shipping label PDF to the guy at the UPS store to print from his phone, which was already set up for the label printer.

File transfer! What will they think of next?

File transfer that just works.

My mum can use airdrop. She sends us things. She doesn't need to install anything or configure things. She just uses the first-party UI.

It's the same with Airpods. Bluetooth headphones? Yeah, you can buy some for $20, who needs Apple ones? Apparently everyone. Turns out providing great noise cancellation and bluetooth that just works means the product is appealing to general consumers.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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Looking like 2028-2030 but it's a moving target. Since we're basically getting flying cars next year at the World Cup, I guess it's going to be after flying cars.

> Since we're basically getting flying cars next year at the World Cup That's so funny. Regular people can't hahndle regular cars. Self-driving cars barely handle 2 dimensional space within very specific confines and rules, in good weather. Existing airspace is congested to the point of being problematic in most metro areas around the world. "Flying cars" might be replacing some private heliopters, maybe. But they ar…

I also don't really understand what's supposed to be the line between flying car and helicopter.

Does the flying car need to also be street legal on the ground? Does it just not have to look too much like a helicopter?

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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post #150

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I think the HN crowd and the public at large have different ideas of usability. The "I want to save the file on my computer that I own" resonates with us. But there are a lot of advantages to a mobile like experience. There's no viruses, you never lose files, apps don't lock up your device, and so on. The problem isn't really the experience being something like devices as a service. It's that the providers are a rent…

_Maybe_ no viruses is accurate most of the time, but certainly this cannot be extended to no malware. Mobile platforms are 90% malware/spyware.

Malware has a specific meaning - that one app can surreptitiously embed itself in your device, cause damage, or exfiltrate your info.

I’m not saying there haven’t been vulnerabilities in iOS. But those were bugs that Apple tried to close. For desktop operating systems, giving third party applications that ability is a feature not a bug.

Yes I’m including MacOS in that bucket - see Zoom installing a web server on Macs without letting users know.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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> Can't use 3 monitors without an expensive DisplayLink dock Or you could buy a MacBook Pro with an M4 Max and plug in four monitors without displaylink.

Something that most sub 1000€ laptops could do over a decade ago, requires a macbook costing well above 2000€ in 2025. I'm running multiple types of machines in my home for work and personal use but macs have been by far the worst offender for multiscreen support for a long time.

Most $1000 laptops supported three monitors a decade ago?

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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> The only thing of note they have added to Windows in the last five years is Copilot That's a quite unfair take, especially when it fails to compare it with what things of note Linux distros have added over the last five years. Valve made Windows emulation better, yes. That's it. What else? Actually, I wouldn't even call Copilot a thing of note. It's just ChatGPT-in-a-popup at the moment. A real thing of note is WSL…

> Windows has got many quality of life improvements over the recent years

Yeah, but they are far outweighed by the quality of life regressions that pushed me to desktop Linux a number of years ago. I only use Windows, begrudgingly, on my work laptop these days, and it just seems to get more bothersome as the years pass.

Linux used to require more install and post-install-setup effort to get me to my happy workflow place, but Windows overtook it a while back and has only been increasing its lead ever since as a result of a growing stack of defaults and unnecessary inclusions being, quite specifically, quality of life regressions (transgressions).

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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> Microsoft is in a great position when AGI "drop-in office workers" become a thing While I don't disagree with you here, that's a helluva big bet. It'll have to happen soon enough that other companies aren't able to pivot in time, and despite what Altman says, I just don't see it happening at that timescale.

> While I don't disagree with you here, that's a helluva big bet. And yet, one that Microsoft has the best chances. Apple has all but zero presence in BigCorp outside of social media and creative teams. Google has its Workspaces thing plus its web wannabe-equivalents to Office, but that's it. And AWS is an infrastructure provider. Microsoft in contrast? They're everywhere and most importantly, whatever is in Office 3…

I worked at the second largest employer in the US. It was mostly Macs. You could choose whether you wanted a Mac or Windows computer.
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