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Re: Winamp clone in Swift for macOS

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I may not use this but I just had a pleasant five minutes reading through some of the source code. Off topic, but: I currently think Swift is the most interesting non-Lisp language. I tried Rust and didn’t particularly like it and I have given up using Haskell on anything but small fun projects. Great to see useful open source projects. I now pay for YouTube Music but I still have an enormous library of MP3 music fil…

EDIT: I just tried it, nice!

Re: Winamp clone in Swift for macOS

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I was not a fan of WinAmp in its heyday because I thought all the "skins" sucked. Wow, have times changed. I look at this screenshot now: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mgreenwood1001/winamp/refs... and think about how usable this looks. Buttons are demarcated clearly. The scrub bar is big enough to grab. Everything is legible. UI sucks now. Meanwhile... seeing the lyrics in that shot makes me wonder if WinAmp sup…

I often see these 'clones' of winamp and for some reason they all use skins that look like shit. As someone who still uses winamp (via Wacup) I can swear by the 'Bento' skin that is not a garish nightmare. https://www.deviantart.com/unpopularpizza/art/Winamp-Big-Ben...

I’m in the minority who thinks that having a “skin” in the first place already goes against good UI. Hence foobar2000 all the way.

Re: Winamp clone in Swift for macOS

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404 error? Matt Greenwood's page is still there, but the winamp repository is gone. (Not all that surprising, as I expect "winamp" is trademarked, although there are still some other Github "winamp" repositories.)

Re: Winamp clone in Swift for macOS

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post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I often see these 'clones' of winamp and for some reason they all use skins that look like shit. As someone who still uses winamp (via Wacup) I can swear by the 'Bento' skin that is not a garish nightmare. https://www.deviantart.com/unpopularpizza/art/Winamp-Big-Ben...

I’m in the minority who thinks that having a “skin” in the first place already goes against good UI. Hence foobar2000 all the way.

We may be in the minority, or we may simply be in the minority who can identify the problem and articulate it.

I think that is actually the truth behind a lot of the design regression we see today (and a lot of other regression).

Re: Winamp clone in Swift for macOS

#175

Been running Foobar 2000 for macOS for a year, but this is pretty in a retro way, I guess. https://www.foobar2000.org/mac <- the least bollocks-infested media player on macOS since about, oh, September 2000.

vlc..?

I am a big fan of VLC, and I just wrote an article about it:

https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/12/vlc_guru_gong/

But VLC is a multi-function tool that can play audio and video.

Foobar is, as far as I can tell, just an audio player. It's more focussed and consequently smaller and simpler. That's what I like about it.

I keep both on my machines and I use both... but I use VLC for video, and Foobar for just listening to music.

Re: Winamp clone in Swift for macOS

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post #136

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milkdrop and project m, those were the days. Why aren’t these really a thing anymore? Does anyone know any non-shit way to get nice visuals from apple music or spotify or whatever these days?

If you look at [1] you can see some derivations from Milkdrop/Project M. There were a lot of other, good visual plugins and software. VJ software, specifically, but also Libvisual just abstracts input and output, therefore allowing you to use all of these (supported) visualization plugins on any supported media player. It isn't much developed anymore these days, but this is the correct way forward. Looking at the act…

Also, I'm working on AVS still, from time to time: https://github.com/grandchild/vis_avs/tree/dev
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