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There doesn’t need to be a why the world exists. It does that’s all there is to know. There doesn’t have to be purpose just an explanation of how not why
GP probably meant "how" as in "By what mechanisms" not "why" as in "For what purposes". So "why" as in "what makes it do what it does".
Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly am I looking at?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_(blockchain) A Sam Altman project which seemingly popped up out of nowhere, and offered people free money in exchange for biometric registration on the network, in a lot of countries all over the world. It seemed to be an attempt to set up some sort of global electronic ID system and currency all in one. That silver sphere is an iris scanner, IIRC. Got shut down pretty hard in a bu…
Was it free money? I recall that it was some shitcoin token paid out, which may or may not be worth something.
I could be wrong, of course.
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#173One thing that i would prefer in biometrics would be that the iris/fingerprints get treated as what they are publicly available and easily obtainable data. At worst using it a a secret key is similar to using your name as a hidden variable for authorisation, whent it sshould strictly be a identification token.And once leaked you cant revoke it . Back on topic , a Gattaca type system is unbelievably bleak and when(not…
Biometrics aren't "publicly available" let alone "easily obtainable". They're easy to extract from you but this is why extraction and retention of this kind of data should be considered extremely invasive and sensitive. That wallet in your pocket may be "publicly available and easily obtainable" but that doesn't mean we should treat it as such - rather we should make sure it's actually illegal to do so without your consent: that's why theft is a crime.
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#174The problem with these types of technologies is that you will be at the mercy of whoever uses them. It's like chat control, censorship, gun laws, etc. You can't control how they will be leveraged. I lived in California for some time a few years ago, and it was a mess, so I understand people being okay with this type of stuff if it will make them more secure, but it's a very risky slippery slope. The other thing is th…
... arent as vital as other freedoms like travel, anonymity, speech and contract. I dont like this conflation because i see it as a nasty and harmful bias.
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Have they? They haven't taken mine.
Every time I fly from SFO, there’s a face-tracking camera that takes your photo after you stand up close to it. There’s definitely some sort of data harvesting there and there’s no opt out that I know about. I also have Clear, which was voluntary but certainly collected my biometric data years ago. I also have Global Entry, which has a similar scanning tech to point 1.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_(blockchain) A Sam Altman project which seemingly popped up out of nowhere, and offered people free money in exchange for biometric registration on the network, in a lot of countries all over the world. It seemed to be an attempt to set up some sort of global electronic ID system and currency all in one. That silver sphere is an iris scanner, IIRC. Got shut down pretty hard in a bu…
>A Sam Altman project which seemingly popped up out of nowhere, and offered people free money Was it free money? I recall that it was some shitcoin token paid out, which may or may not be worth something. I could be wrong, of course.
Apparently the token was only offered in some countries, and in some places where it was offered, that was considered enough of a bribe to render void the informed consent to collect and process private data.
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#177Don't most people in the US get fingerprinted at some point? Let's see. I've been fingerprinted, all 10 fingers, for, at least, 1) the US Army, 2) security clearance for a DoD job, multiple times, 3) a permit to ride a horse on SF Water Department property, and 4) Customs and Border Protection Global Entry, which also took an iris scan. California DMV takes a thumbprint, but not all 10 fingers. They've been recording…
The issue is not the information itself, but how the information will be used. The chance of abusing information is not zero. But having rigorous rules and processes regarding that information, for instance mandatory destruction of said information, will greatly reduce the chance of abuse in the uncertain future.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_(blockchain) A Sam Altman project which seemingly popped up out of nowhere, and offered people free money in exchange for biometric registration on the network, in a lot of countries all over the world. It seemed to be an attempt to set up some sort of global electronic ID system and currency all in one. That silver sphere is an iris scanner, IIRC. Got shut down pretty hard in a bu…
>A Sam Altman project which seemingly popped up out of nowhere, and offered people free money Was it free money? I recall that it was some shitcoin token paid out, which may or may not be worth something. I could be wrong, of course.
* For what it's worth, my cynicism for Worldcoin and that eye scanner thing is currently about 7/10: moderately high but could be much worse.
By comparison, I'm 9/10 in cynicism for Facebook and 10/10 in cynicism for everything Musk does except SpaceX, my SpaceX cynicism is only 5/10.
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#180I used to think this kind of thing didn’t concern me. But once family members get pulled in and citizens get scanned by association, it’s hard to stay untouched. Is this really about safety, or are we quietly building something we won’t be able to roll back?