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Post by rudimentary_phy »

LambdaComplex wrote: post #139
rudimentary_phy wrote: post #103

I was very young, but I remember my grandfather was very afraid to retire from the steel mill where he worked most of his life because those who retired tended to get cancer shortly after and die. Sure enough, a little over a year after his retirement, he got a cold that wouldn't go away, and was diagnosed with cancer and died not too long afterwards. I've wondered for a long time (based entirely on anecdotal observa…

Were all the retirees retiring at a certain point? E.g. 20 years after starting

I would love to have known. I would imagine the steel mill would have a larger turnover rate than other places.

The idea of an impact to the body that significantly disrupts the ability to keep it in homeostasis has intrigued me. It’s likely meaningless and my observations are anecdotal, but I keep my eye out for research on it.

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Post by EarthMephit »

cycomanic wrote: post #125

I remember when I was living in Melbourne I read a story about the Wunderlich factory which operated in the suburb of sunshine. Supposedly they left their wast just sitting in the yard (which was very centrally located so people would commonly cut through it). The local kids loved playing in the dusty stuff and on windy days it was apparently like a snowstorm. The factory operated up until the 80s, it is hard to beli…

My partner 10+ years ago used to be very OCD about Asbestos when we had toddlers, and said that she would see tiny white fibers of it in the bark chips at a bunch of parks that the kids were playing at.

Turns out she was correct, its since been found in loads of mulch around Sydney.

We also came across a huge pile of it illegally dumped a bunch of years ago in the sand dunes at Kurnell beach, kids were happily playing in it.

Re: Asbestosis

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Post by jd3 »

My mom's father died in his early 30's while working as an engineer for Mack Trucks in Hagerstown, Maryland in the '50s and '60s and my mom, to this day, attributes his rapid health decline to mesothelioma/industrial asbestos exposure.

Re: Asbestosis

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Post by rdtsc »

wincy wrote: post #56

One thing I think most Western people don't realize, especially with how terrified we are of asbestos, is that it is still used and being mined today! Russia still extensively uses Abestos, the name literally comes from the Russian town of Asbest which is known for exporting, you guessed it, asbestos, to countries like China, India, and Brazil. Of course being Russian they also say it's a Western lie that Asbestos ca…

> name literally comes from the Russian town of Asbest

The other way around, since it's pretty much the reason the town exists, they named it after asbestos.

It's not too unusual in the largest country in the world rich with mineral deposits. Other names might be Slantsy (oil shales), Apatity (apatites) and of course, Nikel

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Post by jackvalentine »

ikr678 wrote: post #164
exasperaited wrote: post #115

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> I fear that, as this generation leaves us, so will the cautionary tales. Cautionary tales that are not being learned where the similarly dreadful silicosis is concerned; there is an incredible increase in the number of cases of silicosis among kitchen fitters working on granite worktops. (I fear we may also find this issue among people working near 3D printers using glass and carbon-fibre-filled filaments.)

Engineered stone benchtops/products have already been banned in Australia due to this.

I (in Australia) was looking at weatherboards on the weekend for some work i’m doing and came across the James Hardie ‘Linea’ weatherboards - they’re fibro-cement boards. A couple of things struck me:

1) I’ve noticed the James Hardie ‘brand’ being used openly a lot in the past 5 years. I guess the stigma from their evil handling of asbestosis claims is gone.

2) In the installation manual it had an extensive list of things you have to do to not get silicosis.

No thanks Satan, regular pine weatherboards for me!

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Post by somenameforme »

cjonas wrote: post #88
p0w3n3d wrote: post #28

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The best age for having kids biologically, in terms of health is... Close to 18. I had my first child when I was 27 and I was already very tired in the nights, we agreed with wife that it would have been better to start earlier. Some people have kids when 35-40 and I cannot imagine it at all. I'm too tired right now. Much wiser, but my health would not allow me to stay up nights

At 18, I had no business even being responsible for a kid for a day. I hope the stability (both mentally and financially) that I'm able to offer my kid in their development years far outweighs the fact I won't be around as long.

Might this not be a consequence of how "we" were raised? In the past there were 18 year olds who were successful and responsible leaders of nations. Marcus Aurelius became emperor at 16! My parent just wanted me to go to college and earn money so I grew up with a rather 1-dimensional and hedonistic perspective on life.

I'll be encouraging my children to have children as early as reasonably possible. In part it's because of greed - I want to see those grandkids, and maybe even remotely possibly great grandkids before I die, but it's also because it's what I wish I had done in hindsight. Having children has not only been the joy and pride of my life, but it also gave my life much more meaning and direction. In any case, I also think it's completely appropriate for grandparents to play a significant role in the raising of children.

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Post by xethos »

grogenaut wrote: post #176
sroussey wrote: post #140

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Yep! But it takes a while to figure that out.

Took me about 10 seconds to think about including "will they suffocate?"... but I have done auto-extrication

Sure, but you already know why the doors won't open, and presumably aren't hung over

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Post by somenameforme »

nightshift1 wrote: post #153
simonsquiff wrote: post #82

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I had my first at 42, second at 45, and about to have my third at 48. Honestly it’s been fine - thinking that people might find this unimaginable is so far from my reality. It really feels like I’ve had the same experience as those in their 30s. Part of this might be that 40s life is a bit more chill anyhow - I no longer go and get smashed every weekend, or even have the FOMO that I’m not doing that. And work life, w…

My parents had me at 40. I wish they had me sooner. They were old and tired for all my life and at 40 my last parent is already near the end. I have only known one of my grandparents. My parents were the equivalent of other kids grandparents. You do you but i think it's selfish.

Like I'm sure you can see yourself already, a lot depends on the individuals in question. I'm approaching my mid 40s and am still a gym rat - and at my peak lifetime strength + endurance levels. On the other hand I also have peers that have already muddled their minds and broken their bodies, often through years of indulgence, sometimes well before their 40s.

This [1] is RFK Jr at friggin 71 years old, amongst other athletic feats you can find videos of. He's on testosterone replacement therapy, but on the other hand I don't think that's really some big asterisk. Testosterone is absolutely critical for men and it declines as we age. When I reach the point where my testosterone has meaningfully diminished, I'll also likely do the same. And TRT alone doesn't give you results like that - that's the result of endless dedication to maintaining your health and fitness.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpeGjCBF_z4

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Post by Fnoord »

ls612 wrote: post #163
Fnoord wrote: post #159

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100k USD per year for a family is poverty in the USA? I had to look that up [1]. > Real wages averaged $67,521 in 2022, and average household incomes averaged to $87,864. Further down it says: > In every country, there are levels of the middle class, with low middle-class earners and high middle-class earners. In America, the states all have their own middle-class medians as well. For example, in Alabama, low-middle-…

Good god reading is hard. He was in poverty or close to it as a teenager after his dad died, not today.

Back when your father was a teenager, 100k USD was a small fortune.
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