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Re: Roc Camera

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Post by jeswin »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #123
jeswin wrote: post #114

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Interesting. I'm curious why they would do that.

All the stuff is off the shelf. Makes it way easier to develop. There is no reason to actually use RPi, compute module or not, as a base camera board (talking from experience) other than it is super easy to start with.

I disagree. If CM5 had the ability to sleep at tiny fractions of a watt, there are really practical and usable cameras you can pull off today, even when it's not the most efficient. For all the downsides, it would more than make up in the ease-of-development department.

I believe if RPi6 adds sleep, you'd see a flurry of portable gadgets built on the platform.

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by wiether »

litlTucker wrote: post #105
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #45

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> This is rather expensive for what looks like a home 3D printed toy with some cute software. This attitude really rubs me the wrong way, especially on a site called Hacker News. I think we absolutely should be supporting projects like this (if you think they're worth supporting), else all we're left with is giant corporation monoculture. Hardware startups are incredibly difficult, and by their nature new hardware pr…

Check Ali for "shitty" minature key-ring C-thru packaged cameras that look just like this "3D printed toy with some cute software", going for $4.00, not $400!

Please, stop!

I've been strugling to fight the urge to by a "Kodak Charmera" for a month now, don't tempt me again!

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by spaqin »

barrell wrote: post #120
peteforde wrote: post #62

I used to be really (really really) into photography. I respect anyone working hard on a physical product, but this misses the mark on every front I can think of. The real issue that photographers grapple with, emotionally and financially, is that pictures have become so thoroughly commodified that nobody assigns them cultural value anymore. They are the thumbnail you see before the short video clip starts playing. N…

I also used to be really (really really) into photography. Personally, I’ve stopped taking pictures because of the stigma around a camera. Everyone, me more than most, doesn’t want their picture taken, or to be in the background of other photos. When someone can take thousands of pictures an hour, and upload them all to some social media site to be permanently stored… idk it’s shifted from a way to capture a moment t…

And yet, they're constantly captured by countless CCTV cameras all around, without minding their business. I know the pain and don't take as many portraits as I'd like to sometimes, even with people close to me; but on few occasions that I do sneak in a shot and show them the results later, they're surprised in two ways: "when did you take it?!" and "that doesn't look half bad!". Maybe because I don't overdo it.

Keep up the fight!

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by efskap »

dimas_codes wrote: post #144

I am sorry if I missed something or someone already asked it, but: If I generate image with AI, print it, then take a photo of it with Roc Camera so that you can't tell that this is actually a printed image, I will then have an AI image with ZKP of its authenticity?

I suspect the EXIF data won't make sense, and the faq says the ZKP applies to the metadata as well. But yeah, inherent flaw.

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by numpad0 »

october8140 wrote: post #67
peteforde wrote: post #62

I used to be really (really really) into photography. I respect anyone working hard on a physical product, but this misses the mark on every front I can think of. The real issue that photographers grapple with, emotionally and financially, is that pictures have become so thoroughly commodified that nobody assigns them cultural value anymore. They are the thumbnail you see before the short video clip starts playing. N…

The biggest lie capitalism tells us is that something only has value if it can be sold.

And the most important lesson Internet taught it is that something only has value when seller loses money on it.

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by HelloUsername »

jeswin wrote: post #96

I am actually willing to support DIY camera efforts, but if you're semi-serious about taking pictures, this just wouldn't work. First, Raspberry Pi (I'm guessing this is a CM4/CM5) is a disaster for a camera board. Nobody wants a 20s boot every time you want to take a picture, cameras need to be near instantaneous. And you can't keep it on either, because the RPi can't really sleep. There are boards that can actually…

> There is a market for a well made camera like the Fuji X-Half.

That product has for its specs a ridiculous price point of €750..

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by maurits »

peteforde wrote: post #62

I used to be really (really really) into photography. I respect anyone working hard on a physical product, but this misses the mark on every front I can think of. The real issue that photographers grapple with, emotionally and financially, is that pictures have become so thoroughly commodified that nobody assigns them cultural value anymore. They are the thumbnail you see before the short video clip starts playing. N…

I'm cynical and don't fear a world in which people can't verify photos for their authenticity.

I fear (channeling a brave new world) that they simply will not care.

Re: Roc Camera

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Post by MarcelOlsz »

Tepix wrote: post #154
MarcelOlsz wrote: post #131

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Can't you just not care and power through? Someones always going to be miffed regardless. I keep a Rollei A110 on me at all times and a tiny Minox EC that takes me hours to refill. When I bring it out people love it. It's a throwback that people very much appreciate. I can see people getting miffed at a big digital camera though.

Why do you think anyone is entitled to upload photographs showing other people to the internet where they are completely out of control of what happens next?

Man you would hate flickr. Also, never said anything about that. I don't have any social media, so the photos die with me and my friends. It's a nice break from modern technology to spend hours on an analog process. If you're in a public place you're probably getting photographed so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
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