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Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by prebrov »

kyt wrote: post #15

Too little, too late. Their brand is tarnished forever and they'll never recover.

History has some examples of legacy brands being revived. Mini, Hush Puppies, Pabst Blue Ribbon are some of the known examples. Forever and never is a really long time.

Being on the edge but akin to old school is actually valued in music subculture. So while Facebook becomes a tired commodity, MySpace does have a shot in getting back as a 'true skool' brand for a music social network. Think of hip crowd looking back at the 80s and 90s for inspiration.

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Post by connortomas »

nostromo wrote: post #21

If this was billed as "FooBar: Justin Timberlake's new music social network" I would have signed up for an invite instantly. However, "sign up for an invite to MySpace" seems uncompelling. It'll be just as hard for them turn around the name MySpace as it would be for a night club that has become passe. (Maybe it's just me... I also signed up for an invite to WireDoo.)

I tentatively disagree. If the service isn't leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, I think this could be a huge flop. However, if they can actually deliver, I can imagine this generating a huge amount of interest. "The return of MySpace" is a fairly compelling story, after all - if they pull it off.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by miyudreams »

DigitalSea wrote: post #93
chrisacky wrote: post #13

Just watched the video [1] in entirety. One point, you can tell this is a total work in progress/concept, and that the UI is also most likely staged at this point. (I make this observation based on the fact that every post had "12 Connects", "3 Comments" and "2 Shares". Surely if you put this much effort into production of a video you would change these numbers?) Anyway, features which I picked up from the video... -…

The company I work for (Josephmark) was hired by MySpace to redesign the site and create something radically different. The interface you see was created by a few talented designers, the video you say was staged is definitely not staged. What you are seeing is what the new MySpace will look like when it's ready to launch. Yes, the site is focusing music - the new MySpace is going to be a social music platform because…

It would of been fresh to my eyes, but I previewed Windows 8 first. Myspace looks like they took Windows 8 metro design principles into play.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by artursapek »

DigitalSea wrote: post #164
artursapek wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate it when design agencies try this hard to be cool.

I'll pass on your humbling words to the design team, I'm sure they'll appreciate your words. They put a lot of hard work into the redesign, they're not trying to be anything. What you see is a refreshing take on a social site and although I am biased because I work for the agency that designed (as a developer) it doesn't take a designer to see this is the best MySpace has ever looked. It's condescending comments like…

I didn't say anything about the main design. Look at that browser message and tell me it isn't stupid.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by ricardobeat »

__abc wrote: post #154
ricardobeat wrote: post #135

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No, you don't need unlimited developer time to do feature detection. It's just good practice, after it's ingrained it doesn't take any more time than not doing it.

Don't mix "development cost" with "overall support cost". Overall support will include specific feature testing, regression testing, and user testing. Additionally, support tickets may be opened and introduce support costs in ticket management, escalation, and assessment.

Don't provide any extra support? "Your browser is not supported/you are on your own" is much better than denying access.

Eventually people will start spoofing just to get in, and then you have a much worse problem in your hands. You know the Opera story. There is no excuse to block user agents unless it's commercial software with support contracts on the line.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by epidemian »

epidemian wrote: post #77
lordlarm wrote: post #48

As a computer scientist and an Opera user this actually insults me: http://i.imgur.com/7k0bN.png Ironically Opera was the one who proposed the -tag which this site uses for it's rotating LP, in 2007. [1] Way to exclude users. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#History_of_.3Cvideo...

Totally agreed. What annoys me the most it that they are doing browser sniffing on the server side based on the user-agent, instead of feature detection on the client side. Talk about being updated. $ curl -i --user-agent 'Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.10.289 Version/12.02' https://new.myspace.com/ HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily X-Powered-By: Express Vary: Accept-Encoding Content-Type: text/html Locati…

Erratum: s/updated/outdated/

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by nholland »

__abc wrote: post #152
akldfgj wrote: post #139

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"Hey friend, it looks like you are using Opera. Beware, pal, that we don't go to the opera down here on the ranch, so there may be rough-riding ahead! Try one of these nifty browsers buddy, or sally forth into the unknown. OK, pardner?"

You can put all the disclaimers you want before a use and they will "venture forth into the unknown". However, they will ignore (if they even read/understood it) your warning and then bury you in support tickets, complain loudly to their friends, and leave you with a mess to deal with and no real clean/easy way out.

I second this... users rarely read anything & remember even less. If you let them in, then they expect it to work. Its unfortunate for Opera, but we're doing the same for our beta launch.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by derleth »

akldfgj wrote: post #140
ryanmolden wrote: post #123

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Yeah, I always take snarky lists like this as an attempt to be hip or edgy, it fails both attempts here and just makes me think the developer, or whoever came up with that copy, an idiot. One thing is certain, they're not in possession of any ability in the comedy realm.

To quote the patron saint of Hacker News, patio11: If you don't like it, maybe you aren't in their target market. Do you think you are in MySpace's target market?

> Do you think you are in MySpace's target market?

Why do you think advertisers like snark?

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by carlisle_ »

artursapek wrote: post #174
DigitalSea wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll pass on your humbling words to the design team, I'm sure they'll appreciate your words. They put a lot of hard work into the redesign, they're not trying to be anything. What you see is a refreshing take on a social site and although I am biased because I work for the agency that designed (as a developer) it doesn't take a designer to see this is the best MySpace has ever looked. It's condescending comments like…

I didn't say anything about the main design. Look at that browser message and tell me it isn't stupid.

Looks pretty harmless to me. I dunno why people are getting so worked up over it.
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