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Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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Pros: potentially greater safety for police and EMS when dealing with touchy people, obvious benefits for fire rescue (assuming it works in a fire). Cons: use your imagination.

A country like the US has around 0.47 deaths in the line of duty per million per year whereas a country like Germany where people can't buy gun just like that is at 0.37 and a country like the UK where normal cops do not have guns is at 0.05 Which is easier, Wifi 7 in all homes or gun restrictions ?

False dichotomy.

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Is this seriously your conclusion? Might be a good time to get rid of the fucking spy camera owned by a multitrillion dollar corporation partnering with the state surveillance apparatus, is my opinion. Have people never read/watched a sci-fi book/film before?

I think encouraging people to enable E2EE is more realistic than asking everyone to throw out the Ring cams they’ve potentially spent hundreds on, yeah.

Why people would purchase a telescreen to place on their homes in the first place is also incomprehensible to me.

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Flock is funded and supported by YC. Not sure how YC sees this.

If it brings in ARR it makes an exit more likely and that makes them happy. They're "investors, not bosses" - https://www.ycombinator.com/principles/

They're investors, not bosses

Being an investor is not an excuse. It makes you amoral, too.

"I didn't build the bomb, I just funded the company that built it."

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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post #94

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Is this seriously your conclusion? Might be a good time to get rid of the fucking spy camera owned by a multitrillion dollar corporation partnering with the state surveillance apparatus, is my opinion. Have people never read/watched a sci-fi book/film before?

I think encouraging people to enable E2EE is more realistic than asking everyone to throw out the Ring cams they’ve potentially spent hundreds on, yeah.

But... what makes you think that Amazon et al can't MITM the connection?

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Keep voting for politicians that spend our money on weapons and violence, this is the stuff we'll keep getting. This applies to both major political parties in the US.

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Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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I hate that all our favorite sci-fi books were used as manuals for what to build next, instead of trying to avoid creating those futures in our real lives.

Read more Solarpunk? From a writers standpoint though, I suspect its easier to weave a dramatic plot through a dystopic background than a more optimistic one

"It's about a family with a robot helper, that doesn't go beserk, and eventually recreates their late grandmother's casserole recipe using AI. It's a guaranteed bestseller!"

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When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, you realize that the recent demo of Anduril's helmet that gives an information display that the soldier/cop wearing it can use to "see who is in the house" or "see around corners" etc. is not sci-fi but instead, something they can do today.

In reality - I think this will be far worse than that. Why send in an expensive soldiers or a cop when you could just filter in a drone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=901lYbPmqu4

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> They've done studies and construction workers have a much higher rate of injury and death than the police in the US. Sure, but both construction worker and police officer are significantly more dangerous jobs than most of us here have sitting behind a desk. Obviously it’s not a job where people are dying routinely, but suggesting death or serious injury are the only two risks of interacting with the public and resp…

And nurses have even a more dangerous job. I'm not convinced that being a cop is such a tough job. Most of it is sitting in your car waiting for speeders, or to warn traffic about road construction, or driving around looking for something unusual happening. US courts have determined they don't even have a duty to risk their own lives to save civilians. Kinda the entire purpose of their job's existence, removed. There…

> I'm not convinced that being a cop is such a tough job. Most of it is sitting in your car waiting for speeders, or to warn traffic about road construction, or driving around looking for something unusual happening.

The tough parts of a job aren’t defined by the routine work. It’s the risks and edge cases. That’s like saying most of a construction worker’s job is measuring things and reading plans so it can’t be that tough.

It’s pretty obvious that a lot of commenters here have never known an actual police officer. They’re just choosing between two extreme archetypes that aren’t accurate: Either the heroic person risking their life on the daily to protect to the public, or the bumbling donut-eating cop who has been relegated to traffic duty only. Neither are true and comparing it that way is a false dichotomy.

The irony of us sitting at desks in our warm and comfortable offices while calling the job of someone who gets called to deal with troubling public situations “not tough” is ironic. I wouldn’t want to do that job and I bet you wouldn’t either.

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Look the outcomes from past history to understand how future will become. Sadly it is only going to get much worse before it gets better.

I am not sure how that would be helpful, regardless of how you mean that. Nothing in the past has ever even gotten remotely close to what even exists today, let alone what will exist in all of our lifetimes, no matter how old you are.

Humans are basically the same, even if the technology is different.

"History doesn't repeat itself but rhymes a lot" (or words to that effect). What is happening now in the US (and many other places) strongly echoes the events leading up to WW2.

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, you realize that the recent demo of Anduril's helmet that gives an information display that the soldier/cop wearing it can use to "see who is in the house" or "see around corners" etc. is not sci-fi but instead, something they can do today.

> When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, WiFi routers can’t tell you where people are in the house. The routers don’t even know their own location within the house. All of those papers you see on the topic have extensive additional information being put into their models. The routers don’t magically know the layout of your house. At most, a W…

The police has access to the planimetry of your home. Secondly, if they get close enough they can measure the distance between the agent and the router, and then deduce all the relative distances from the router to the people inside.
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