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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by leakycap »

jsheard wrote: post #74
eagleinparadise wrote: post #71

Anyone know when to expect the M5 Pros? I am on a base 16gb M1 and struggling hard in daily workloads. I am often running at 20gb of swap memory usage. I don't really use local LLMs but think 32GB RAM would be good for me... but I am so ready to upgrade but trying to figure out how much longer we need to wait.

There was a 6 month gap between the M4 and M4 Pro, so maybe a while.

This gap makes no sense to me. I wonder if Apple is just leaning into this cycle because it's easier to make M5s than more advanced processors, so you can sell this sooner?

From a buyer's perspective, I don't like it at all.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ComputerGuru »

jiriro wrote: post #157

If I buy in the US and use it in the EU – will the Apple Intelligence work? I would be happy to sacrifice the EU keyboard and have the AI instead :-)

Unless they’re now doing iPhone-level parts locking, getting the right keyboard would be an eBay purchase away.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by leakycap »

tracker1 wrote: post #116

What really bugs me, is the huge performance gains are against the M1 and an (5-7yo chip) Intel Mac, that from my own memory had throttling and overheating issues. While not as impressive, I'd really appreciate if they simply showed the generational gains, or actual charts against several previous generations. I'm still pretty happy with my 16gb M1 Air, but it would be nice to know some closer to real world differenc…

You can't expect Apple to make an argument against their own chips... you're asking them to admit that they are making ~20% a year improvements when they want buyers to think it's a multiples-of-X improvement.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by AlexeyBrin »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

macOS has a different dev culture than Linux, but you can get pretty close if you install the Homebrew package manager. For running LLMs locally I would recommend Ollama (easy) or llama.cpp. Due to the unified memory, you should be able to run larger models than what you can run on a typical consumer grade GPU, but slower.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ksec »

No WiFi 7 and WiFi 6E only is annoying. Especially for what they are charging. And Bluetooth 5.3, Their Pro Mac are slower than their iPhone Pro.

SSD has double the speed. I guess they say this only for M5 MacBook Pro, because the previous M4 has always had slower SSD speed than M4 Pro at 3.5GB/s. So now the M5 should be at 7GB/s.

I assume no update on SDXC UHS-III.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by avtar »

theodric wrote: post #148
coldtea wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that useful as a heads up. MacOS is great for development. Tons of high profile devs, from Python and ML, to JS, Java, Go, Rust and more use it - the very people who headline major projects for those languages. 2ish hours battery life is crazy. It's 8+ hours with the average Macbook.

> It's 8+ hours with the average Macbook. Did I get a dud? I rarely get over 2.5

8+ hours sounds about right. I have a M1 Macbook Pro and even 5 years later I can still use it (a million browser tabs, couple containers, messaging apps) for an entire day without having to charge it.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ciupicri »

whydid wrote: post #125
lm28469 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

The EU requires a 1 year warranty on electronics, where in the US it's only 90 days. The higher cost of electronics reflects this.

It's 2 years according to https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/gua...

> Under EU rules, if the goods you buy turn out to be faulty or do not look or work as advertised, the seller must repair or replace them at no cost. If this is impossible or the seller cannot do it within a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to you, you are entitled to a full or partial refund. You always have the right to a minimum 2-year guarantee from the moment you received the goods. However, national rules in your country may give you extra protection.

> The 2-year guarantee period starts as soon as you receive your goods.

> If a defect becomes apparent within 1 year of delivery, you don't have to prove it existed at the time of delivery. It is assumed that it did unless the seller can prove otherwise. In some EU countries, this period of “reversed burden of proof” is 2 years.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by mholm »

lostlogin wrote: post #145
WXLCKNO wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know you can use CMD+backtick (CMD+`) to cycle between windows of the same app? Add shift to go in reverse. Or otherwise you can enable the app exposé feature to swipe down with three fingers and it will show you only windows of the same app.

I’m a lifelong Mac user and didn’t know this. Shame on me.

Apple really doesn't tell power-users about a lot of these features. You can really gain a lot by searching for Mac shortcuts and tricks. I still learn new things that have been around for over a decade.
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