As a EU citizen, I don't care? People are not swayed by political ads. They're swayed by influencers who push political agendas covertly.
How come you think that said influencers are not paid?
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Yellow pages, really? Like, let's ban ads and brig back yellow pages", and everything will be solved? And, if you were not aware, how do you think Yellow Pages made money? [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_pages
Not that I think it's a good idea, but ... You go to Google, type "refrigerator" and you get two buttons * Please show me only adds, sorted by how much they paid to Larry and Sergey * Please show me only somewhat organic results, sorted by relevance or whatever, and discount me $1 to pay for the servers and crawers.
Yeah, but serving that doesn't cost that much and dropping the advertisement platform would drop it further (and let engineers fix search instead of shaving milliseconds from ad bidding)
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Also that they have to actually be your positions and you can't just promise one thing and do a completely different thing.
Then they'd all say the same thing with "my positions will be those of whoever writes the largest check"
That would be allowed. If that's what voters want, they can vote for that. Voting to dissolve a democracy is allowed.
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What is your general opinion on the wisdom and decision-making of politicians and heads of state that are above the age of 80?
Anyone who is 81 or older is elderly, therefore they have a lot of wisdom, therefore their decisions are the best. My opinion completely aligns with this logic with no deviation.
Agreed. As a Frenchman, I can testify that the same logic allows anyone to take perfectly dreary 2022 Napa valley wine, and turn it to a beautiful 1942 Saint-Emilion. You just need to age it 80 years.
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Please don't shill someone's blog here. This kind of "native advertising" is not appreciated. If you have a point, make it. Don't just use it as an opportunity to astroturf a blog.
I gave a link to an extensive HN discussion, not a blog.
Sure you did. And the link at the top of the page was just a coincidental "banner ad" that you had nothing to do with. If you simply wanted to share that content without the link, it's just plain HTML. Trivial to do.
It's not ethical for you to be doing this kind of submarine advertising on HN without disclosure. Please just admit what you're doing rather than pretending.
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I gave a link to an extensive HN discussion, not a blog.
Sure you did. And the link at the top of the page was just a coincidental "banner ad" that you had nothing to do with. If you simply wanted to share that content without the link, it's just plain HTML. Trivial to do. It's not ethical for you to be doing this kind of submarine advertising on HN without disclosure. Please just admit what you're doing rather than pretending.
Let me disclose that I have no connection whatsoever with the linked blog.
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For #1 I think the idea basically violates the idea of banning advertising. For #2, I think that established brands essentially wouldn’t need to be searched for. In the status quo I can pay to put up a billboard next to McDonald’s and say “I make a better burger two blocks down.” But if I’m not allowed to do that a lot of people will just assume that McDonald’s is the place to go for a fast food burger.
1. No, it puts people in control of when they query the index instead of spamming everywhere eyesight could possibly stare at. 2. That's fine, you want something new or something you don't know where to get? Query an index. You want the good ol' experience? Go for what you already know well. If you worry about the people who would never discover anything new, then it's like they don't talk to anybody or have no desir…
What if the “good old experience” is Microsoft in the late 1990s with a nearly 100% marketshare? You don’t know anyone who uses another system and you assume that all other options either don’t exist or can’t possibly be as good. There’s almost zero word of mouth and you haven’t bothered to consult a directory since you’re 100% confident that the only operating system in the world is Windows [1]
Do you not recognize how this scenario can work to preserve monopolies?
How does Apple come back from the brink of bankruptcy without their iconic iMac and iPod marketing campaigns?
And how do you flip the switch to making advertising illegal when incumbent companies have already enjoyed the benefit of legal advertising for hundreds of years? We ban advertising, and I start my new soft drink company, but Coca-Cola got to advertise for 100+ years already. The cat has been out of the bag for thousands of years.
[1] https://www.overclock.net/threads/teacher-calls-linux-%E2%80...
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>so people can find your stuff when they need it And how do are people informed about new products they may need or changes to existing products that they now may need? What about reminding people about things they needed, but they forgot about? There needs to be someway for companies to reach consumers that isn't initiated by the consumer.
When I want it, I will start a search and find something new. I don't need constant bombardment with brands "I forgot about".
This leads to inefficiency in the market. Again you don't know when you want "it", when you don't know that "it" even exists. This gives an advantage to incumbents in the market since you already know of them.