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Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by NetMageSCW » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 4:01 PM UTC

alias_neo wrote: post #147

toast0 wrote: post #19

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You should still be able to push start a newer manual transmission car. Put in the clutch, put the key to run, put it in 1st (or so), get it up to speed, let the clutch out, and now the engine is turning, which should turn the alternator/generator which should now be able to run the engine. If your electrical system is really bad, maybe the alternator can't get the voltage high enough to run everything; if your car i…

The inability to do a rolling start in an automatic really bugs me after being used to manuals my whole life. I switched to an auto a few years back for reasons (UK, still not super popular here), and once or twice I've had the car cut out on me at speed, in traffic; had it been a manual, I could have just restarted it while moving, but it forces you to be stopped, foot on the brake and in park before you can push th…

If it cuts out at speed you have a problem that needs to be fixed that has nothing to do with the type of transmission.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by MarkusWandel » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 5:11 PM UTC

james_marks wrote: post #98

wingspar wrote: post #9

“ Since there is not a clutch safety switch on the starting circuit, make sure to press the clutch down before you try to crank the engine.” Growing up, a friends dad would use this as a ‘feature’ on his Datsun to move the car out of traffic when it wouldn’t restart. Put it in first, release the clutch, crank the starter, and move the car out of the way.

Most (manual) cars of that era could be roll started this way! Did it many times when a starter or battery died; just need a bit of a hill or a good push.

I used to roll start my last stickshift car just for fun. 2001 Honda Civic. The inertia from just rolling down my 30ft gently sloping driveway was enough, have it in 3rd or so, pop the clutch briefly and it would start right up. A diehard stick shift colleague with a 2014-ish VW tells me this won't work on modern stickshift cars any more, don't know why.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by toast0 » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 5:58 PM UTC

alias_neo wrote: post #147

toast0 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should still be able to push start a newer manual transmission car. Put in the clutch, put the key to run, put it in 1st (or so), get it up to speed, let the clutch out, and now the engine is turning, which should turn the alternator/generator which should now be able to run the engine. If your electrical system is really bad, maybe the alternator can't get the voltage high enough to run everything; if your car i…

The inability to do a rolling start in an automatic really bugs me after being used to manuals my whole life. I switched to an auto a few years back for reasons (UK, still not super popular here), and once or twice I've had the car cut out on me at speed, in traffic; had it been a manual, I could have just restarted it while moving, but it forces you to be stopped, foot on the brake and in park before you can push th…

> but it forces you to be stopped, foot on the brake and in park before you can push the button to start it.

Worth trying to start it in neutral? It might be checking neutral or park and foot on the brake, which you could probably do while still moving.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by alias_neo » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 6:06 PM UTC

toast0 wrote: post #173

alias_neo wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The inability to do a rolling start in an automatic really bugs me after being used to manuals my whole life. I switched to an auto a few years back for reasons (UK, still not super popular here), and once or twice I've had the car cut out on me at speed, in traffic; had it been a manual, I could have just restarted it while moving, but it forces you to be stopped, foot on the brake and in park before you can push th…

> but it forces you to be stopped, foot on the brake and in park before you can push the button to start it. Worth trying to start it in neutral? It might be checking neutral or park and foot on the brake, which you could probably do while still moving.

Not possible, it's a push-button start/stop, it must be in park with your foot on the break, makes sense I suppose for safety.

EDIT: The display specifically says "shift to park" if I try.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by alias_neo » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 6:08 PM UTC

NetMageSCW wrote: post #171

alias_neo wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The inability to do a rolling start in an automatic really bugs me after being used to manuals my whole life. I switched to an auto a few years back for reasons (UK, still not super popular here), and once or twice I've had the car cut out on me at speed, in traffic; had it been a manual, I could have just restarted it while moving, but it forces you to be stopped, foot on the brake and in park before you can push th…

If it cuts out at speed you have a problem that needs to be fixed that has nothing to do with the type of transmission.

It's hard not to reply to this with a sarcastic joke, but yes, you're right, it's definitely a problem that needs fixed, and no, it has nothing to do with the transmission.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by qwelkfj » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 7:11 PM UTC

wtallis wrote: post #123

zahlman wrote: post #99

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These kinds of histrionics are really uncalled for. Virtual environments are easy to work with. https://chriswarrick.com/blog/2018/09/04/python-virtual-envi... is a solid tutorial.

Virtual environments are an incomplete solution at best. In particular, they really don't help much with the use case of wanting to install a tool : if you're installing a tool and not just setting up a development environment for working on a specific project with its dependencies, then you probably want to make that tool usable without activating its venv. The virtual environment capabilities shipped with Python it…

  $ virtualenv ~/venv/yt-dlp
  $ . ~/venv/yt-dlp/bin/activate
  $ pip install yt-dlp
  $ ln -s ~/venv/yt-dlp/bin/yt-dlp ~/bin/yt-dlp
  $ deactivate
  $ yt-dlp ...

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by swiftcoder » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 7:49 PM UTC

NetMageSCW wrote: post #170

swiftcoder wrote: post #137

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There are better tools for managing the madness, certainly. uv makes python management almost pleasant (sandboxing the whole environment by default is a wise choice).

That sounds like a good way to greatly increase the disk and ram required for each tool or running copy of a tool or application. Almost as bad as turning everything into an Electron app.

You aren't wrong, but it's pretty much the only sane way to deal with an ecosystem that doesn't allow multiple versions of the same package to coexist - otherwise we're all stuck on the lowest common denominator of each configuration of packages

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by wtallis » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 8:06 PM UTC

qwelkfj wrote: post #176

wtallis wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virtual environments are an incomplete solution at best. In particular, they really don't help much with the use case of wanting to install a tool : if you're installing a tool and not just setting up a development environment for working on a specific project with its dependencies, then you probably want to make that tool usable without activating its venv. The virtual environment capabilities shipped with Python it…

$ virtualenv ~/venv/yt-dlp $ . ~/venv/yt-dlp/bin/activate $ pip install yt-dlp $ ln -s ~/venv/yt-dlp/bin/yt-dlp ~/bin/yt-dlp $ deactivate $ yt-dlp ...

Isn't that really obviously about five steps too many to be considered a reasonable way of installing a package?

(And you didn't handle getting an appropriate version of python installed.)

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by me-vs-cat » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 9:51 PM UTC

NetMageSCW wrote: post #170

swiftcoder wrote: post #137

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There are better tools for managing the madness, certainly. uv makes python management almost pleasant (sandboxing the whole environment by default is a wise choice).

That sounds like a good way to greatly increase the disk and ram required for each tool or running copy of a tool or application. Almost as bad as turning everything into an Electron app.

It may sound that way to you, but it doesn't have that problem for me.

Re: A few things to know before stealing my 914 (2022)

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Post by Stratoscope » Thu, Oct 09, 2025, 11:17 PM UTC

shermantanktop wrote: post #168

Stratoscope wrote: post #113

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