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As someone who's been quite heavily involved with web-platform-tests, I'd caution against any use of the test pass rate as a metric for anything. That's not to belittle the considerable achievements of Ladybird; their progress is really impressive, and if web-platform-tests are helping their engineering efforts I consider that a win. New implementations of the web platform, including Ladybird, Servo, and Flow, are ex…
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Blink supports Windows, Android and Linux better than WebKit or Gecko does, to name at least one one reason. If it weren't for uBlock I'd probably be using a Chrome fork right now.
Chrome on Android makes the web completely unusable without having access to uBlock, especially on resource constrained devices. Chrome on Windows doesn't allow the full version of uBlock Origin that still works on the YouTube website. It's just Google abusing its browser monopoly in the name of ad revenue.
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That's on nobody except Microsoft and Meta for testing against Chromium only.
It was a bug in WebKit that WebKit had to fix (and as you know, Safari takes a long time getting those fixes into consumer's hands).
Testing in non-Chrome browsers should identify anything like this before stuff ships. It is legitimately not hard to do.
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Don't forget, Firefox didn't succeed because Firefox was good, it succeeded because IE was bad. People don't like having to choose between Google Chrome and Google Firefox.
I'm not sure about it - there were other contestants: Opera, Netscape, even the big Mozilla Suite.
Yes, even Opera - it never hit the heights that Firefox did outside of niche markets, even though they were great about a lot of other things.
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such as? I consider myself a power user and I've never run into anything I couldn't handle or get around. Genuinely curious.
No support for uBlock Origin and other tools that make the web sane
I wish them well, but browsers are very much pay-to-play. Google had to pay their way to their current dominant position.
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I do wonder if it's the case of "90% of completeness takes 90% of time; the remaining 10% takes another 90%". Though, I suppose even if true, it would still be a pretty good timeframe.
I'll guess that the remaining 10% will take more than another 90%, and also that it will keep growing as time goes on. Web standards are becoming more complex every day.
It's always struct me as interesting that ladybird is built with C++. I like C++, and prefer it to languages like Rust, but it's not uncommon to see new OSS projects using weird languages and the newest tools. Lots of languages offer improvements in regards to threading models, development speed, or cross-platform support which we don't get in C++. I suppose their success is likely directly related to the fact they m…
It's the same language most of the code in Chrome and Firefox is written in. It's also not clear what you're looking for in terms of cross-platform support. Some languages provide better standard library support for UI elements, but that's the part a browser will be implementing for itself regardless.
I think it’s just fantastic that the Ladybird browser is close to being usable. I was under the impression this was going to take many years before it became competitive.
I do wonder if it's the case of "90% of completeness takes 90% of time; the remaining 10% takes another 90%". Though, I suppose even if true, it would still be a pretty good timeframe.
They are decades of work away from having a browser that would be competitive with Chrome or Firefox.