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Re: BYD builds fastest car

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Post by zevon »

contrarian1234 wrote: post #164
ggm wrote: post #128

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You can't rely on Chinese companies to make the tanks and rockets you intend aiming at China. Car manufacturers serve many purposes. Aside from keeping the UAW membership onside, they are a strategic buttress for an emerging future war risk. Australia maintained subsidies to Ford and GM for onshore production precisely because of this. And they stopped when a strategic realignment made successive governments decide t…

War with China.. ya'll are nuts. The American zeitgeist is completely poisoned and insane. Listening to this stuff from the outside is kind of horrifying. War with a nuclear armed country ends with a nuclear winter for the whole planet. There is no preparing for war with China unless you want everyone dead (which I'm starting to suspect a lot of people are okay with) This seems so anachronistic.... When was the last…

Well, the last war where tanks and other old weapons were important is going on in Ukraine, for example. And I'm pretty sure you could build quite a few death machine components with what's available in Tesla factories as well (certainly not a full tank though, but you could probably not do that in an ICE car factory either).

FWIW, I agree with your general sentiment, though.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the car industry as it is now would fight retooling their factories tooth and nail, move production to other countries and do anything else they can to be able to continue making as much profit as they can.

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Post by contrarian1234 »

number6 wrote: post #169
contrarian1234 wrote: post #164

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War with China.. ya'll are nuts. The American zeitgeist is completely poisoned and insane. Listening to this stuff from the outside is kind of horrifying. War with a nuclear armed country ends with a nuclear winter for the whole planet. There is no preparing for war with China unless you want everyone dead (which I'm starting to suspect a lot of people are okay with) This seems so anachronistic.... When was the last…

In The 2022 Invasion of Russia into the Ukraine Tanks played an important role in the offensive and the counter-offensive especially around Kyiv, Mariupol, Severodonetsk, and Avdiivka

Are they still a factor? I thought they quickly were put out of the picture once drone warfare was ironed out. Haven't heard of tanks in Ukraine for the past couple of years

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Post by bmacho »

ryandrake wrote: post #102
fragmede wrote: post #95

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Which is even more embarrassing, because they're miles ahead of the carmakers that came before them.

The time separating Stegosaurus and Tyrannosaurus Rex is greater than the time separating T. Rex from modern-day humans. Dinosaurs are dinosaurs but yes, Chrysler is from an even more ancient time than Tesla.

Off: best usage of this random factlet yet

Re: BYD builds fastest car

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DanielVZ wrote: post #94
ryandrake wrote: post #82

Ever since I rode in a BYD in China I've thought it would be great to be able to get one in the USA. It just really felt complete, put together and polished in a way that I haven't seen in a "normie" U.S. car in a long time. Too bad our country uses high tariffs and regulatory barriers to protect its dinosaur companies.

Ever since I ride them constantly in Chilean Ubers I wish other EVs were more prevalent because how the aluminum bends and creaks sometimes when I sit on the backseat doesn’t make me feel any safe (I weight 90kg).

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Post by lelanthran »

lm28469 wrote: post #45
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #15

That's probably one of the least interesting records. Besides the tires, what's the problem reaching that speed? Need a big engine and some downforce. This is much easier than building a car that cam set a record on the track.

> This is much easier than building a car that cam set a record on the track. Why ? You "just" need a car that can steer and brake, what's the problem with steering and braking ? Need a steering wheel, good brake pads and tires

Tracks are much more different than straight line speed.

TBH the complexities are not even comparable, track engineering for a car is probably a few orders of magnitude more complex than straight line speed.

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Post by blitzar »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #157
gkanai wrote: post #112

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> it would be great to be able to get one in the USA. Allowing in Chinese EVs into markets where there are important domestic auto manufacturers will be very bad for those domestic manufacturers. (US, Germany, France, S.Korea, Japan, etc.) Outside of Tesla, none have EV brands competitive with the Chinese firms and if customers in those non China markets migrate to Chinese brands en masse, it would be tremendous disr…

> Allowing in Chinese EVs into markets where there are important domestic auto manufacturers will be very bad for those domestic manufacturers Tariff them so they're super expensive! Or set import quotas, so they can't displace too much demand. Either way, letting some of them through gives Americans visibility into what others are building while continuing to largely protect domestic manufacturers.

> letting some of them through gives Americans visibility into what others are building

Politically problematic - the illusion of China as a peasant state manufacturing little more than knock off rubber dog turds would be shattered.

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Post by WorldPeas »

gkanai wrote: post #147
gamblor956 wrote: post #129

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Contrasting opinion: BYD made electric busses for US transit agencies. They were the worst buses that I have ever ridden. Today, no U.S. transit agency still uses BYD busses, because none of them managed a service live longer than about a year. BYD vehicles seem really nice for the first few hours, until you start discovering all the corners they cut to make their price point.

> Today, no U.S. transit agency still uses BYD busses, because none of them managed a service live longer than about a year. This is a fascinating data point. This should be more prominent.

Anecdotally this is false though, I still see them being used in San Fransisco, in fact I rode one last month as a free shuttle. Perhaps it means of a specific weight class?

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Post by jnaina »

blitzar wrote: post #176
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #157

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> Allowing in Chinese EVs into markets where there are important domestic auto manufacturers will be very bad for those domestic manufacturers Tariff them so they're super expensive! Or set import quotas, so they can't displace too much demand. Either way, letting some of them through gives Americans visibility into what others are building while continuing to largely protect domestic manufacturers.

> letting some of them through gives Americans visibility into what others are building Politically problematic - the illusion of China as a peasant state manufacturing little more than knock off rubber dog turds would be shattered.

Especially awkward for the current ruling class, since their VP choice recently dismissed the Chinese as “peasants,” and will likely to cause cognitive dissonance within their base.

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Post by Someone »

contrarian1234 wrote: post #172
number6 wrote: post #169

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In The 2022 Invasion of Russia into the Ukraine Tanks played an important role in the offensive and the counter-offensive especially around Kyiv, Mariupol, Severodonetsk, and Avdiivka

Are they still a factor? I thought they quickly were put out of the picture once drone warfare was ironed out. Haven't heard of tanks in Ukraine for the past couple of years

This is from last month: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/09/08/world/europe/...

It describes how tanks were modified to protect, first, against attacks from the top, and then, from drone attacks from all sides.

They claim “But they remain important, especially for trying to take and hold territory. With their heavy firepower, they will continue to have a role in attacking, defending and supporting the foot soldiers of the infantry.”

Re: BYD builds fastest car

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Post by a96 »

WorldPeas wrote: post #177
gkanai wrote: post #147

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> Today, no U.S. transit agency still uses BYD busses, because none of them managed a service live longer than about a year. This is a fascinating data point. This should be more prominent.

Anecdotally this is false though, I still see them being used in San Fransisco, in fact I rode one last month as a free shuttle. Perhaps it means of a specific weight class?

It's most likely a flat out nationalistic lie.
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