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If you zoom out ( https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-work-for-the-f... ), the size of the federal workforce has been at around 2.7-3 million people since the late 1960s, while the US population has gone from ~198 million in 1967 to ~343 million in 2025. We've gone from 14.39 federal employees per 1,000 people in 1967 to 8.78 federal employees per 1,000 people in 2024. Given that many of these employees do…
> the size of the federal workforce has been at around 2.7-3 million people since the late 1960s, while the US population has gone from ~198 million in 1967 to ~343 million in 2025. We've gone from 14.39 federal employees per 1,000 people in 1967 to 8.78 federal employees per 1,000 people in 2024. Again, so what? The entire premise that government should scale with population is questionable. These comparisons with U…
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Did you actually look at the numbers? You should give it a try. The best you can get from those numbers is that people are more likely to donate to the Democratic party than the Republican one. For example: true, 99.4% of the donations from the USDA employees went to the Democratic part. 99.4% of how many donations? Less than 3,000. - Source [0] - and that's an overestimate, since that filter will include donations f…
Why wouldn’t donations be a reasonable proxy? 3,000 samples is more than enough to have a statistically significant analysis of a population of 100,000.
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Because that's how the law in NY is written? I'm not really sure what you're trying to argue here, to be honest. The case played out in the legal system, a judge ruled it should go forward, and a jury convicted Trump on these charges. A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud inclu…
So everything is fine as long as you can fit the facts into “how the law is written?” If so, why are you complaining about the Comey prosecution? 18 USC 1001 is extremely broadly written: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001 > (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United Sta…
> No surprise that even a blue state grand jury
Why would being in a "blue state" matter here? I don't think it's a given that grand juries are politically biased.
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That's the intention of this administration. Destroy any service that the government could provide until people can genuinely think the government is useless. Then the people currently in power and their cronies will come out of the woodwork "saving" the country with their private companies and interests. Competing with an empty shell of a government is the easiest way. As a side effect, if they're to lose the next e…
There is an ulterior motive for these cuts, but please be honest about what it is. The federal bureaucracy is completely dominated by one party: https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2016/10/federal-employe... . No matter who wins the elections, most of the actual decisions are being made by adherents of the same party. Trump had four times the support in AOC’s district in the Bronx than among federal employee donors.…
It is a pretty remarkable strategy to be able to spend decades shitting all over the federal bureaucracy as a party, obviously discouraging conservatives from joining the bureaucracy, and then using party affiliation (obviously further skewed by the fact that federal workers tend to have college degrees, tend to be more racially diverse, and tend to live in the DC metro area) to decide that the whole thing needs to be destroyed.
What happened to merit as a hiring preference?
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Have you noticed ICE's budget lately?
I find the constant equating of illegal immigrants with Jews who lived legally in Germany for many generations and who had done nothing illegal or wrong at all very disturbing. It minimizes what happened there.
Yours is also the same argument that was made for years about not including LGBT people among the victims of the Holocaust, since they had in fact broken the law by existing.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws#Reich_Citizensh...
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Never a bad decision that you don’t seem to rush to the comments section to defend.
I think extending Trump’s tax cuts is a terrible policy, do you want to talk about that?
And always with such specious reasoning
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I find the constant equating of illegal immigrants with Jews who lived legally in Germany for many generations and who had done nothing illegal or wrong at all very disturbing. It minimizes what happened there.
I mean, you can be just as callous and say that those who remained in Germany after the country legally revoked their citizenship[1] had, in fact, done something illegal by remaining there. They were just as illegal as a kid who has lived here since she was 3 months old. Yours is also the same argument that was made for years about not including LGBT people among the victims of the Holocaust, since they had in fact b…
I think it’s pretty easy to achieve consistency by just being opposed to deleting citizenship, but being in favor of maintaining and enforcing a border? No contradiction there.
I don’t see what’s calloused about it, either. People voluntarily relocate with their children, who do not have a choice in the matter, all the time. If the parents are sneaking into and hiding in a country, I don’t see what’s so different about the family being removed to their place of origin vs the family voluntarily relocating, from the perspective of the child.
Once the child is 18 they have their own choice to continue hiding in a country they are not in legally or to return to their place of origin. Like, if I was forcibly returned to where my family is from in Europe due to similar circumstances, I would not be that upset about it. These people are only mad because the place they are from sucks. That is not the problem of America or Americans.
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You generally expect the size of an organization to scale with the scope of its activities, especially if its activities include "healthcare" and "building roads."
"Scope of activities", maybe , but there's no inherent reason that has to be equal the rate of growth in the population . You'd hope that government becomes more efficient over time. Private organizations have profit constraints, and they're constantly striving to become more efficient, cut what doesn't work, and so on. Government has no such constraint.
Government does have a constraint like that - it has to remain solvent. A government as powerful as the United States has many tricks it can use to do that, but at some point even it cannot do anything it wants.
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There is an ulterior motive for these cuts, but please be honest about what it is. The federal bureaucracy is completely dominated by one party: https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2016/10/federal-employe... . No matter who wins the elections, most of the actual decisions are being made by adherents of the same party. Trump had four times the support in AOC’s district in the Bronx than among federal employee donors.…
You are spamming the same comment all over this thread. And this is just the RW hypocrisy at full display. Trump is apparently the strong man leader with lots of support but at the same time the weakest leader who can be obstructed by smallest of opposition. If he cannot get his most ardent detractors to support him then he is not much of a leader. The sheer amount of complaining is grating and not even backed up wit…
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, you can be just as callous and say that those who remained in Germany after the country legally revoked their citizenship[1] had, in fact, done something illegal by remaining there. They were just as illegal as a kid who has lived here since she was 3 months old. Yours is also the same argument that was made for years about not including LGBT people among the victims of the Holocaust, since they had in fact b…
So in your comparison, on the one hand are laws that are shared by literally every nation (having and maintaining a border), and on the other hand is a historical edge case where citizenship was deleted. I think it’s pretty easy to achieve consistency by just being opposed to deleting citizenship, but being in favor of maintaining and enforcing a border? No contradiction there. I don’t see what’s calloused about it,…
What are you talking about? Revocation of citizenship, denaturalization, exile, banishment, etc are some of the oldest functions of law there are. For as long as states and the concept of citizenship have existed, revocation of citizenship has been a thing.
Hell, entire countries were started by populations that were denaturalized.
And countries regularly denaturalize their own citizens, both in the past and present.
During war, it's even more common, especially among naturalized citizens. Germany considered itself in a state of war from an enemy foreign and within, denaturalization and then expelling of non-citizens was in their right, just as it was in the right of literally every Western nation to do the same during times of war, which they did. In fact, just having the wrong ideas or saying the wrong thing were grounds for denaturalization here and elsewhere.
In the period that the Nuremburg Laws were passed, rates of denaturalization world-wide had reached a high point. World War I had increased the rate, and it continued accelerating after, with denaturalization laws passed and used in practice by every country that had fought in it. In the decades before Germany's denaturalization laws, literally tens of millions of people had been denaturalized from their homelands.
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were denaturalized and exiled in order to establish the State of Israel. Millions of black South Africans were denaturalized and were made citizens of Bantustans. Today, the Royhingya are stateless because they were denaturalized. In 2013, hundreds of thousands of black Haitians had their citizenship revoked.
The idea that citizenship cannot be revoked is a recent US/UN thing for some reason. And even then it's still wrong, because the US has a long history of denaturalizing its undesirables.
> I don’t see what’s calloused about it, either. People voluntarily relocate with their children, who do not have a choice in the matter, all the time. If the parents are sneaking into and hiding in a country, I don’t see what’s so different about the family being removed to their place of origin vs the family voluntarily relocating, from the perspective of the child.
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> Neighbors like Eboni Watson say they ducked for cover as they heard several flash bangs.
> "They was terrified. The kids was crying. People was screaming. They looked very distraught. I was out there crying when I seen the little girl come around the corner, because they was bringing the kids down, too, had them zip tied to each other," Watson said. "That's all I kept asking. What is the morality? Where's the human? One of them literally laughed. He was standing right here. He said, 'fuck them kids.'"
> “It was heartbreaking to watch,” she said. “Even if you’re not a mother, seeing kids coming out buck naked and taken from their mothers, it was horrible.”
> "They just treated us like we were nothing," Fisher said.
[0] https://www.rawstory.com/it-was-heartbreaking-naked-zip-tied...
[1] https://abc7chicago.com/post/ice-chicago-federal-agents-surr...