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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They make PLA ones, advertised as biodegradable, but AFAIK the settings for them to biodegrade never happen in nature, it's ever so slightly better than the alternatives but far from perfect, or even good. https://www.filamentive.com/the-truth-about-the-biodegradabi... > PLA is only biodegradable under industrial composting conditions and anaerobic digestion – there is no evidence of PLA being biodegradable in soil,…

I read up on PLA when I got my 3D printer because it's popular material for that. From what I understand, it's biodegradable above 50° C. Not something you'll find outside Death Valley. Still better than most other options, but it would be nice if we had something that was stable for weeks and then degrades nicely.

Not all PLA are created equal though. Raw PLA pellets won't behave the same way a 3d printer filament choke full of dyes, additives to make them more UV resistance, &c.

There are plenty of posts of people putting 3d prints in compost piles, for months or years, and visually not much happens. Even stuff advertiser as bio don't fare that well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tavrkWrazWI

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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> Clearly, one should be able to exist in society, including going outside one’s own home, without needing to accept this kind of thing. This is not clear at all to me. When you go into public you’re accepting that you might be filmed. The reality is that you are being filmed constantly. It’s just that it bothers you sometimes. It reminds me of The Light of Other Days (a book about a society where technology makes an…

So you only have to worry about consequences from not-normal people, and that's the good news?

EDIT: to bring a specific real-world example: A friend of mine does classes at a local studio that also offers martial arts courses, and some of the local right-wing bubble has gotten it in their head that this has to be "antifa combat training" and keeps screaming that this needs to be monitored. The current local government has been ignoring them, but a lot of people are probably quite happy now that there isn't an easy-to-get public record of who was there and "needs a visit".

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I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I'm from Gen Z and the idea of being filmed and published online without my consent sounds like a nightmare. It is my belief that it's an invasion of privacy (even in a public space) and questionable from a (cyber)security perspective. In France we got the Droit à l'image (Right to the image) which makes it illegal to post images or videos of people online without their consent, so that may be why that feels very strange to me.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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this is exactly about what is legal or not. If I remember correctly in Germany there's a distinction about people being the focus of a photograph or people in the background. You can e.g. publish a picture of a public place without asking everybody on that place for their consent. Another corner case would be filming police brutality. What if the police officers in question wouldn't like to be photographed being brut…

This law badly needs to be updated to account for the fact that photo/video resolutions have massively increased since it was written, and "not the focus of a picture" is no longer enough to prevent you from being identified/tracked in the picture, which was the original intent.

Have you seen the cameras on cell phones compared to the cameras of yesterday? Resolutions are up but faked through software. A 640 picture from 2004 can be enlarged with clearer detail compared to a 2000px of today always looking sharp but never truly capturing a clear picture.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My own anecdotal experience is that the generational gap is actually the inverse of what was described above. Younger people seem to be very much moree acutely aware of the dangers of publicity and much more guarded about what they do in public if it could potentially end up online.

Everything has moved to private spaces now. Friend discord groups, private social media accounts, etc. The age of posting on Facebook under your real name with privacy settings public is long gone because of the numerous obvious risks. But just being seen in a small segment of a YouTube video with no name is a pretty minor risk.

> just being seen in a small segment of a YouTube video with no name is a pretty minor risk

It might become a slightly larger risk when image processing and face recognition get cheap enough that anyone can search to find every video/livestream/photo containing your face.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

Here in Spain if you don't get explicit consent you can get sued for publishing the video (it's fine if you only showed it to the shop owner and didn't publish it), but if someone tells you explicitly they don't want to be recorded you have to stop and delete the video (I assume if you refuse they can just call the police, but I've never seen it happen).

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

> I get it, but the alternative is what?

Stop taking video in public, or at least of the public. You just assume you should be able to do that and the whole world should adjust to your preference. Maybe it should be the other way around.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Many people are claiming it is legal but it's not that simple in Europe and the UK.

It is legal (in most places) to film people in public but it is not necessarily legal to post the video to social media.

The Irish Data Protection Commission says:

> There is nothing in the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) that prohibits people from taking photos in a public place. Provided you are not harassing anyone, taking photographs of people in public is generally allowed and most likely will qualify for the household exemption under Article 2(2)(c) of the GDPR.

> However, what you do with that photo can potentially become a data protection issue, for example, if the photograph, which contained the personal data of individuals, was sold for commercial gain or was posted publicly on a social media account. Under those circumstances, you are likely to be considered a data controller which brings with it a host of obligations and duties under data protection law. In particular, it would be necessary for you to demonstrate, amongst other things, your lawful basis for the processing of such personal data under Article 6(1) of the GDPR.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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We Brits don't speak up enough in general. An e.g. German would have no qualms about going up to the person filming and making their concerns known. That's exactly why it's become normalised Also many people just flip out even about the most reasonable of requests.

>We Brits don't speak up enough in general. They would be wrong to, given that it's legal to take photographs or videos in a public place. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place in the UK.

The law is not a moral compass
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