As a European, I don't mind this getting passed anymore. I'll just go around it like I do for many other laws. Enforcing laws in the EU is a total joke, even if this passes, no one will care. Signal will probably add an option to circumvent this like they have for other laws in countries that block signal itself. So, Europe, if you really want this, go ahead and spy on the majority of the people, I'll just keep using…
Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
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#172Any protests planned?
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#173Ursula von Der Leyen will go down history as the worse EU representative ever.
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> Varoufakis had a very important take: that Europe needs to learn to survive post-EU. Wasn't he the Greek Minister of Finance that was supposed to be a game theory genius, but was completely incapable of understanding why his proposals were politically impossible?
Why politically impossible? You can argue economically impossible, but the referendum overwhelmingly voted to reject the bailout package
The only real hand Greece had was to simply refuse the bailouts and refuse to pay the debts. In that case they would have been cut off from international bond markets, they would have had to renounce the Euro and start using a different currency.
All that was possible, but the Greek government could see the obvious - it would have been far worse than what was on offer.
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#175I didn't think Denmark was a pseudo-democracy but you learn new things every day.
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#176It's just completely bonkers from start to finish.
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Meanwhile the most prosperous nations in Europe are not part of the EU. It is good you are asking how to avoid the EU turning into a totalitarian state, which is the way it is currently heading. I don’t think it’s possible.
what are these "most prosperous nations" ?
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Just making sure everybody realises (because the comment sounds a tad sarcastic), but that comment is completely true - the politicians have quite seriously exempted themselves and certain types of people.
What other certain types of people?
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#179What I don't understand is, why don't the authorities think the actual bad guys will avoid the surveillance? It seems to me that organized crime will find their own solution, and the rest of us will occasionally have a snooping policeman checking our private messages. It's not unknown, even in Denmark, that people who are given access to private data will abuse it, eg snooping on ex girlfriends, that kind of thing. W…
The law in question (PL2628/2022) doesn't mention CSAM or sexualized/erotic content depicting children or teenager by name. It's broader than that, it mentions that any content deemed offensive to children/teenagers, or that violates their rights as defined in the Estatuto da Criança e do Adolescente, should be removed by social media.
My friend supports the law because he thinks it will stop 99.9% of the bad guys looking for CSAM on the internet because he believes they get their content from Instagram. I tried to explain to him the law won't do shit to stop the bad guys but instead just add more surveillance to people who aren't doing anything wrong, but he doesn't want to accept it, and even called me out saying I look like a defender of the bad guys, simply for the fact that I don't think mass surveillance and age verification of people is enough to stop wrongdoers on the internet, or to protect children.
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Full stop? Lol. The right-wing groyper theory is completely dead. Tyler Robinson is a leftist who killed in the name of his leftism. None of the evidence contradicts it.
What evidence do you have that he "killed in the name of his leftism?" As far as I know, there is no evidence of a specific "leftist" motive and no connection has been found to "leftist" organizations. Bear in mind that many Christians were opposed to Charlie Kirk's politics, and right-wingers didn't feel he went far enough. So that alone isn't evidence of "killing in the name of his leftism." The memes aren't hard e…
I'd entertain steelman arguments for these theories using all available evidence but I've yet to see anyone do it.
At any rate, were a long way from "full stop" and you seem to be lashing out in the dark so I'm content to leave it here.