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Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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It's not "recommended" but your PCP can prescribe it off-label if you ask -- just ask.

I'm sorry, but you sound like the people who try to get me take ivermectine for Covid. "just get it off label" or "tell the doctor you just got back from pauea new guinea and saw worms in your stool." I know you are very well intentioned, but American's actually have very good doctors.

This is very different from recommending horse dewormer; if you can't tell the difference, I'm sorry.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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I'm sorry, but you sound like the people who try to get me take ivermectine for Covid. "just get it off label" or "tell the doctor you just got back from pauea new guinea and saw worms in your stool." I know you are very well intentioned, but American's actually have very good doctors.

This is very different from recommending horse dewormer; if you can't tell the difference, I'm sorry.

When I'm in my doctor's office, and the doctor is saying "don't do that" it is quite hard to tell the difference.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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1) If your wife was having a high risk pregnancy and couldn't get vaccinated, she really shouldn't have been working on the front lines during Covid, anyway. 2) Take a look in the mirror and try blaming the people who have made "getting a vaccine" a culture war political statement rather than something routine and uncontroversial. If vaccines were uncontroversial, medical exemptions from them would also be rare and u…

A percent of people have allergies to multiple vaccine ingredients.

One of her friends likewise in the medical field with allergies was forced to get a vaccine or lose her job, and then proceeded to have significant medical issues afterwards from the allergy attacks

The vaccine regime has lost many supporters, myself included.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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It's not "recommended" but your PCP can prescribe it off-label if you ask -- just ask.

The issue is getting it covered by insurance. Otherwise it can cost over $1,000 for the full course of shots.

You can get costs down somewhat (half that) even uninsured with GoodRx.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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I've been through this with medical providers, and they say it's not recommended for me. I don't take medical advice from internet strangers, especially when it contradicts my doctors'. I'm not particularly interested in discussing the how's and why's. My doctor said he doesn't recommend I get it, so I don't.

In most countries it's recommended for everyone. It just isn't in the US because they don't want to pay for it.

From what I have heard, that is true for many, many vaccines.

I think it's weird and creepy people are selectively opting into vaccines that are not recommended for them.

It feels a bit like those ads that say "bring up Expedia with your doctor!"

This isn't a good PSA.

Should I be vaccinated against smallpox too? How about anthrax?

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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post #140

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It's not "recommended" but your PCP can prescribe it off-label if you ask -- just ask.

I'm sorry, but you sound like the people who try to get me take ivermectine for Covid. "just get it off label" or "tell the doctor you just got back from pauea new guinea and saw worms in your stool." I know you are very well intentioned, but American's actually have very good doctors.

> American's actually have very good doctors

Doctors aren't setting the rules on who gets what vaccine and when. RFK Jr is. Health insurance companies are.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Of course, I for sure held off on having casual unprotected sex with multiple partners as a teenager because I was worried about contracting HPV, but thanks to Gardasil my slut era was legendary and enduring.

Teenagers are notorious for making decisions based on consequences that are decades away from manifesting.

I can't tell if you think what I said was serious, I tried to hard to convey the /s.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Why?

Rape, you might become sexually active in the future, and although sexual transmission is the most common way, there are some other ways to get infected.

Probably in reverse order

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Maybe we’re seeing selection pressure against those prone to addictive cycles of social-media influenced misinformation? Like, anti-vaxers died at higher rates in Covid [1]. This will continue across disease outbreaks, particularly ones for which we have near-comprehensive vaccines like measles. And given antivax sensibility is heritable (through parenting, not genes), one would expect this to stabilize the populatio…

very few people are against vaccines per se, they are just against *unsafe* vaccines. "anti-vax" is a term used to dismiss dissident without having to deal with their arguments i.e an ad hominem. As an analogy, if I object to high levels of mercury in fish, am I anti-fish? or anti-poisonous-fish ?

We've been dealing with anti-vaxxers for years. I've yet to see an argument from one that holds any water.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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That feels like a wild assumption to me - we really think people 45+ aren't having casual sex? less casual sex maybe, but I would imagine still a decent amount, statistically.

If you’re having casual sex at 45+ you probably already carry HPV.

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