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Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Re: Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Post by randycupertino »

cantor_S_drug wrote: post #169

> A few creators do append labels disclaiming that their videos depict “no real events,” but many creators don’t bother, and many consumers don’t seem to care. https://youtu.be/kLyuNo3vEuQ?t=346 AI videos as propaganda. In this clip, the guy can be seen passing through a missile transport railing. 300K views.

I enjoy watching movie trailers on youtube and I've noticed in the last month all these ai-created fake movie trailers for upcoming movies where the actual trailer isn't out yet. It's infuriating when I watch it, realize something is off and then at the end it's like "Fan-made!"

If this ai-slop keeps up I'm going to just probably stop watching youtube altogether, it sucks getting tricked by fake content.

Re: Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Post by layer8 »

esafak wrote: post #170
citizenkeen wrote: post #161

I just want Discord but a forum. I would pay good money to that

Discord has "forum channels". https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/6208479917079-... What aspects of conventional forums are you looking for?

The absence of chat channels, I suppose.

Re: Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Post by hollerith »

randycupertino wrote: post #171
cantor_S_drug wrote: post #169

> A few creators do append labels disclaiming that their videos depict “no real events,” but many creators don’t bother, and many consumers don’t seem to care. https://youtu.be/kLyuNo3vEuQ?t=346 AI videos as propaganda. In this clip, the guy can be seen passing through a missile transport railing. 300K views.

I enjoy watching movie trailers on youtube and I've noticed in the last month all these ai-created fake movie trailers for upcoming movies where the actual trailer isn't out yet. It's infuriating when I watch it, realize something is off and then at the end it's like "Fan-made!" If this ai-slop keeps up I'm going to just probably stop watching youtube altogether, it sucks getting tricked by fake content.

I recently spent over an hour listening to a channel whose description starts with "This channel shares real stories of life, love, and heartbreak in Thailand. I focus on honest experiences from foreigners living here."

Then I realized that these stories are entirely AI-generated! I know that because of the lack of personal idiosyncracies in narrative style, lifestyle and background (the stories purport to be autobiographical, where idiosyncracies show up more than in other kinds of writing) and the high rate at which the stories appear on the channel (namely, one 30-minute story every day for the last 70 days). Someone collecting actual true stories would not be able to collect stories at that rate -- at least not when just starting out (i.e., before becoming known and trusted by many expats) and the oldest video / story on the channel is only 2 months old.

https://www.youtube.com/@InsideThailandStories

Re: Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Post by esafak »

IshKebab wrote: post #29
austin-cheney wrote: post #2

> Social media was built on the romance of authenticity. It never felt authentic to me. It always felt like a computer algorithm to create unnatural echo chambers at the full blast of a firehose.

It was authentic (whatever that means) back in the day when Facebook was just for university students. Your friends were actually friends (more or less), the only things in the feed were actual messages from them. No tiktok style trash. Started going downhill when they let everyone go on it, and never implemented anything like Google's "circles" idea, which meant you ended up with your crazy aunt as a "friend", the f…

Facebook always had the ability to organize contacts, but few people use it. https://www.facebook.com/help/200538509990389/

Re: Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Post by esafak »

avereveard wrote: post #14

eh, I'd say monetization/gamification was the issue. bet a social media without likes, organized in circles, would be way less toxic.

Without advertising you would have to pay for it. But that would not sufficiently deter bad actors. What you need is culture to repel and moderation to exclude them.

Re: Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Post by esafak »

layer8 wrote: post #174
esafak wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord has "forum channels". https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/6208479917079-... What aspects of conventional forums are you looking for?

The absence of chat channels, I suppose.

Forums had chat channels too; e.g., https://chat.stackoverflow.com/

Sometimes it just did not have live updates: https://forum.vbulletin.com/forum/general/chit-chat

Re: Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Post by immibis »

skydhash wrote: post #153
bdangubic wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

except no one goes to their website or uses rss. it is unfortunately a waste of time for small niche group that finds it useful

What do you want as a business? The void of platforms like X? Or the actual people that took the time to goes to your website to learn more about your offering.

You want the most customers for the least effort, which is Instagram.

Re: Social media promised connection, but it has delivered exhaustion

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Post by zoul »

tokioyoyo wrote: post #83
MrDresden wrote: post #20

I notice that Mastodon is only mentioned in the article in terms of protocols, but to me the killer feature there is the absolute lack of an algorithm. Nothing is ever pushed on me by the platform, so the whole experience doesn't become combative. That does mean though that each user has to do some work finding others they like, and that can take some time. But that also weeds out those that just want to be spoonfed…

Unfortunately, we discovered that people would rather be told what to watch, rather that self-discover their interests, because that’s a lot of “work”.

I hope it’s not that black-and-white, that it’s possible to have a sane social network with algorithmic feed, only we need to design the algorithms around users’ needs first.
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