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Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by kjkjadksj »

KAMSPioneer wrote: post #153
Jaxan wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially on babies, the smoothing or noise reduction is weird. A newborn has a very specific skin with an enormous amount of details/speckles/marks. It’s very hard to capture for some reason. Couldn’t do it with my phone, only with a proper camera and shooting in raw.

Hard agree. As a new parent, I bought a modern mirrorless camera before my kid was born, and the difference is noticeable. Especially, as you say, around skin details like milia (white spots on a newborn's skin) which often get wiped out on my Pixel (I'm sure by the AI processing). If you are considering an expensive phone upgrade based off of the camera alone, consider buying a dedicated camera first, I say. I know…

When you think about all the stuff you schlep around with a kid, whats a few more ounces in a camera at that point.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by kjkjadksj »

microtonal wrote: post #85
kjkjadksj wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I found with screens going back to an old 1280px macbook screen when the retina was in the shop is that you quickly lose appreciation for quality when you don’t have an example next to you. This is why the Apple Store model is good for sales, you can dangle the new screens on an hdr wallpaper and its clear that it is different to the one you already have. But again, it only became an issue because one day you ma…

I agree. Though I would formulate it a bit differently. You can live fine without HiDPI or >60Hz. But once you have used them for a few days, it's really hard to go back. Our daughter still has an older iPhone with 60Hz and I cannot look at it. The flickery animations drive me crazy. Yet, I have had iPhones with < 120Hz screens for well over a decade.

I went back pretty easy. The real thing is the pixel viewing distance. At laptop viewing distances I couldn't see the pixels on the low res screen anyhow. The only real noticeable difference was ui text was a little bigger. Refresh rate you stop noticing fast. I personally can't tell when my m3 mbp is on 120hz on the power adapter or 60z on battery, maybe if I hunted for it specifically by scrolling at lightspeed.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by sotix »

I've been waiting for this for a year, but I'm a bit disappointed. It's larger than the 17 and 17 pro, and it weighs more than my SE 3rd gen. The price is also insane. It costs the same as an entire computer.

I just want a lightweight device that makes calls, send texts, can snap a quick photo, has maps, mobile payments, and can order a cab. These phones are clearly aimed at consuming content, and I've been pushed out of the market. What to do?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

sotix wrote: post #174

I've been waiting for this for a year, but I'm a bit disappointed. It's larger than the 17 and 17 pro, and it weighs more than my SE 3rd gen. The price is also insane. It costs the same as an entire computer. I just want a lightweight device that makes calls, send texts, can snap a quick photo, has maps, mobile payments, and can order a cab. These phones are clearly aimed at consuming content, and I've been pushed ou…

You can still buy a decent budget android phone that meets most of your requirements for only a few hundred dollars. The Samsung Galaxy M56 5G is only $400. The pixel 9a is only $499. Android probably has something that you are looking for, Apple isn't really competing in that space.

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Post by _aavaa_ »

lazycouchpotato wrote: post #173

256 GB base storage without a price increase is good to see. Makes the Mac Mini look weird now with 256 GB base storage. Pretty shameful of Google to stick to 128 GB on the Pixel 10.

The pixel 10 is different trade off. Base pixel is cheaper than base iPhone and has an extra camera, upgrading it to 256 gets you slightly more expensive. And for the pro models it flips with the pixel cheaper even with same storage.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by NoPicklez »

toastercat wrote: post #115

I always have a hard time swallowing the price of modern smart phones. Having something so ridiculously expensive and fragile as an everyday carry seems absurd to me. For reference, you can buy two Steam Deck LCDs for the price of one iPhone 17.

If you're like me, you buy a brand new one then keep it for 4-5 years.

I could buy two Steam Deck LCD's, but an iPhone has a much higher resolution display and I also use it every day and take it everywhere I go.

Buying one every year, not worth it in my opinion. Buying one and using it for many years is. I still have my 12 and will likely upgrade to the 17.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by toastercat »

majormajor wrote: post #150
toastercat wrote: post #115

I always have a hard time swallowing the price of modern smart phones. Having something so ridiculously expensive and fragile as an everyday carry seems absurd to me. For reference, you can buy two Steam Deck LCDs for the price of one iPhone 17.

you're gonna carry those two Steam Decks in your pockets? I think modern smart phones are pretty remarkably un-fragile compared to 20 years ago before the iPhone ($300-700 for a Symbian with a tiny plastic screens that got scratched super fast) or even 10-ish years ago with much more fragile screen glass and cases. Last phone I did major damage to was my HTC Evo in 2012. (That Nokia N95 was in 2007 dollars, too!)

> you're gonna carry those two Steam Decks in your pockets?

Watch me! My point was more about how expensive phones are.

I'm not so sure about modern smart phones being less fragile. My first phone was a Nokia 3310-descendent, and my second a Samsung Beat flip phone. Neither were over $100 at the time of purchase, and both were rugged devices I could throw in my pocket or in a bag without thinking it would need a protective case or that their screens were going to break.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by wiredpancake »

Macha wrote: post #138

I'm actually considering buying myself an iPhone for the first time. I have basically two priorities when buying an phone: 1. Freedom. I should be able to build and run apps on it without the platform holder having a barrier on it. 2. Privacy. The phone shouldn't be an object to track me for better ad sales or any other purpose. Of course, priority 1 has until recently always led to Android while priority 2 has alway…

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