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Re: iPhone dumbphone

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WAT.

...do you check for texts if you don't have any text notifications telling you to? I certainly don't.

Something like before launcher with filtered notifications gives you a list you can go through whenever. But they don't clear (your uber is getting close) and even then I often forget to check sms for 2 days

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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My wife and I put parental controls on each others' phones. I turn them off for travel (in case I need something unexpected) and then back on when I get home. It sounds crazy but it works great.

Having an accountabilibuddy definitely helps establish and maintain compliance.

We do the same and it works well, and its a fun time for us when the other person asks for more time for an app, mostly instagram.

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>Maybe you’re at a restaurant and they need you to open a website for example. Maybe I'll open the door and leave for a different restaurant.

I am assuming that if you asked, they'd give you a printed menu. You don't have to be difficult about it.

I don't always need the dead tree version of the menu. Those do create extra work for the staff. And I am assuming they need constant replacement. Kids will drop food on them all the time.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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I just have all notifications turned off permanently. "But what about..?" Yes, even that.

I do this, but be aware that peoples expectations are that you reply quickly, especially the younger generation. They will perceive your lack of response as you not prioritising them. This has cost me a relationship. (it was long distance to be fair).

> This has cost me a relationship. (it was long distance to be fair).

Tbh, (imho, having tried it) in normal circumstances it would be a miracle to make anything really work like that, but at present you're just fighting a losing, nearly irreconcilable battle, unless you're both wholly on the same page about infrequent synchronous communication.

If a relationship relies on immediate responses to async, unpredictable, text-based communication, and what you want is a sane lifestyle, it's going to be a tough situation.

I just tell people that need my attention how to get it. Call me if it's important and/or time sensitive, otherwise I'll just check when I check based on the implied nature of the platform. Instagram is super casual unimportant brainrot usually, Messenger for coordinating plans with older millennials and Gen X family, Whatsapp for younger millennials sometimes, SMS or RCS is slightly more important and I'll get visual but not physical or audible notifications. I make it clear that if it's a group chat, I'll turn notifications off unless I'm specifically tagged, or maybe check in once a week if it's for a specific purpose, but otherwise I hate them. Signal for some things that aren't time sensitive, no notifications, no read receipts on any platform.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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Before installing all those apps the author listed, I'd recommend this exercise: Let the battery die on your phone, and live one week without it. Cold turkey. Tell people in advance if you need to, give them an alternate way to reach you. Replace your phone for that week with a small notebook that fits in your pocket. During that week, every time you want to do something that requires a smartphone, jot it down in you…

I find that regular wilderness backpacking trips in places without cell service accomplish this kind of reset in a fun, social (bring friends!) way that provides plenty of exercise and fresh air, with the added bonus of being a reasonably "normal" explanation/antidote to the social pressure of those "you're doing what??? I need to be able to reach you!"-type conversations.

There's the added bonus that being fully out of cell service effectively removes the ability to cheat altogether, though it seems inevitable at this point that satellite data will be invading the backcountry before long.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

#176

Interesting! I wish Apple would expand on "Assistive Access" mode. - https://support.apple.com/guide/assistive-access-iphone/set-... They made this for people with cognitive disabilities, but it also works great for older people. It just wouldn't work for me. I need Jira, Slack, and GitHub during work hours for example. But I don't want them during non-work hours. I realize I'm describing something actually doable in…

Huge, thanks, somehow missed it. Smart TV UIs are begging for this mode too, for users to whom aesthetic is irrelevant.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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Seems like way more work than learning to be disciplined.

> Seems like way more work than learning to be disciplined.

Are you disciplined about everything you need/want to be disciplined about? Food, exercise, sleep, reading, work, family... You've got it all dialed to a perfection, yes? If not, why not? It is after all easy to learn to be disciplined.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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For those that are looking for something more advanced in the Android space a friend of mine built https://limitphone.com/ to handle something like this. It requires a reset, but comes with a lot more options.

Looks very interesting. The price is not good. I mean, we have to do it for 4 fones, that is 120 dollars per year, which is a lot of money, not in it's own, but it ads up with other subscriptions. The trial is too short, i think a months will be better.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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I just have all notifications turned off permanently. "But what about..?" Yes, even that.

I've had this for years but it makes me check my phone more often I think. At times I find myself cycling through apps to see if someone replied, whereas if I had a notification I'd know whether or not to bother

Author here: this is exactly what had me turn on notifications for email. I first tried without it, but found myself "checking on important responses" way too much.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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Alternate solution I haven’t seen anywhere else:

1. Screen time to disable browser, App Store etc.

2. Type random 4-digit passwords until you forget.

3. Use your own Apple account as reset.

4. Remove apple password from password manager. Store in “Notes” app or similar on computer.

5. Lock this app storing password behind mandatory typing of gibberish using Cold Turkey on desktop.

Works well for me.

I will mention that as a younger person who grew up with internet access, I get the feeling that the “just be disciplined” comment often comes from people who didn’t have these addictive habits seared into their minds from an early age or have fought them off and forgotten what it’s like to literally lose control of your actions, especially when its normalized around you.

I’ve noticed a lot of older people don’t see the internet as a threat in the same way as I do, and I envy that.

Living with phones like this is completely unnatural.

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