Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

neowin.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–180 of 185 posts

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#171

Post by pprnm »

hn-ifs wrote: post #62
xandrius wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Already exists, just not to the normies. IoT LTSC. Works like a charm and no bloat.

This is what I use in a VM on my Linux host whenever I need to run something Windows. I don't game and all my software is cross platform. Windows still has a few things I miss, programs like notepad++ (for which there's no true Linux equivalent), and portable apps (with Linux equivalents not really coming close, but understandably so). Windows really is a broken OS solely set up for spying on users.

CudaText is replacement for NP++. Main disadvantage - Spell Checker plugin is much slower. But many advantages.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#172

Post by llbbdd »

esperent wrote: post #46
999900000999 wrote: post #40

Ubuntu. Fedora. Arch. Open Suse . Pick one, stop trying to make Windows look like a decent os. My local Windows install just gave up. I'm very close to trying Windows 11 in a VM on top of Fedora or whatever, can't really do that on my 16gb ram value laptop though. If Maschine offered official Linux support, that's what I make music with, I'd be 100% Windows free.

A few months ago I switched from Windows 11 to Ubuntu on my laptop. Coming from a decade of experience running servers with various flavors of Linux it's not much of a learning curve for me. And look, I love Ubuntu. I'm sticking with it (although kinda wish I'd been less safe and chosen Fedora or OpenSuse). But, to be honest, I've had, and continue to have, a ton of problems related to hardware. Problems waking from…

> None of these are quite deal breakers. Sure, I have to open and close my laptop lid three or four times to get the external monitor to switch back on, and and the login prompt will only show on my laptop screen which gets set to 1% brightness every restart, so if it's sunny I have to stick my face right against the screen to see it.

I know there are tradeoffs everywhere in life but man, these are deal breakers. I'd install windows in my brain before I put up with having to push my boulder uphill just to log in.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#173

Post by sixtyj »

ta685714 wrote: post #162
sixtyj wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. The worst death is from fright. So let’s keep calm. Because Win 10 will work after October 2025.

That's me, I stayed on Win 7 at home out of principle against enshittification. Worked as beautifully as ever for light browsing and gaming. Then Chrome support stopped, including Steam. Can't upgrade any Electron app, either. Still holding out but soon I'll relegate it into a box running under linux. Well, it had a good 30+ year run.

Firefox is not updated for W7 too. Brave seems to be supported. And Chrome has annoying note that I need to update system.

Linux Mint is said to be good for usage.

But what I will miss is Outlook tuned to perfection. I don’t know how to transform 30+ GB pst file to something different. :)

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#174

Post by rleigh »

lock1 wrote: post #56
incone123 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Work issued me a Windows 11 laptop and even clicking on a window in the task bar does not reliably bring it to the front. There's sharp edges and there's wtf

Yeah, sure, I have a fair share of complaints on Windows too. Since Win XP, I think there has always been some kind of jank around Windows auto-hide taskbar, and it still persists on Win 11 which irritates me quite a lot. Closed-source doesn't help for a poweruser; I'm fine with fiddling around with the code or config, just give me the code and manpages. But again, my argument is that all of this is not applicable fo…

Recently it's got really bad though. The taskbar is badly broken.

* If you use auto-hide, it won't show when some applications are open. Edge in particular is bad.

* Some applications simply don't show on the taskbar at all. Teams is one. It's in the alt-tab list.

* Sometimes it stops working entirely.

The testing and QA of this stuff appears to be largely absent.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#175

Post by sneak »

1718627440 wrote: post #167
p_ing wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Win32 gives you a stable ABI.

The Linux kernel also has a stable API, glibc has it, most proper libraries have it. The problem on Linux is not that a single tool doesn't have a stable API, but that the tool changes. But that's kind-of like complaining that Windows doesn't have a stable API, when you replace it with macOS.

glibc does not have a stable api on the timescales we are speaking about it here, and neither do any of the GUIs on linux. you are sort of moving the goalposts here.

you cannot take a compiled gui app for linux from 20 years ago and run it on a modern system and have it work. on windows it will work just fine.

not to bring out that old trope, but windows is an OS (and desktop environment) - linux is a kernel. you know what they meant, and your rebuttal isn’t one.

also, GP clearly said ABI and you jumped to API - one is much harder than the other.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#176

Post by emeril »

picafrost wrote: post #20

There is something so fundamentally gross about Microsoft's vision of what role an operating system should serve. That there is an aftermarket of software that attempts to disable (but cannot remove!) the invasive dark patterns is alarming enough, but Microsoft may simply just... undo that, with the next unstoppable update. Then again, this is the company that answered complaints about Windows being bad for developme…

at least for now, I just make sure that any internet connection is "metered" to avoid updates + use an LTSC build + use a bunch of winhawk + openshell to make it...usable :(

ms is def at the point of major enshitification

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#177

Post by hakfoo »

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #132
vivzkestrel wrote: post #24

Microsoft should create a new windows option in addition to Home, Professional and Pro and call this one "Windows OPTIMAL" They can price this 3x if they want but it has 0 bloatware, 0 telemetry or atleast everything can be disabled at the time of installation. It is literally windows designed from the ground up for maximum performance, runs as smooth as windows 7 or xp used to back in the good old days

> windows designed from the ground up for maximum performance They are fundamentally incapable of doing this. The senior management are incapable of even imagining in a dream of a windows that didn't spy on its users while also forcing them to use the software managers want in the way managers want. Even if some dev team managed to make one (it would have to be on the sly), and guerrilla marketed it, and it was a gia…

It would fit into the product matrix where Vista and Win7 Ultimate did: explicitly targeting enthusiasts, parts-builders and boutique shops where they want to convey that you're getting a cost-no-object build.

Or being able to sell it as an aftermarket license upgrade would be a way to get more revenue from people who were otherwise going to ride an OEM Home license for which MS had a negotiated rate of 34 cents per machine.

OTOH, one thing about the ongoing advertising/enshittification bubble is that it seems to distort people's understanding of revenue and NPV. They'd rather have the possibility of infinite future ad/spyware revenue even when people are clamoring to offer up-front real cash instead.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#178

Post by philistine »

dangus wrote: post #160
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That'd be a lot of work for no gain and substantial loss of control (due to GPL). How are they going to force adverts onto people if it becomes easy to just run a script to remove them?

It’s just as easy to run a script to remove them on Windows but most people don’t do that. I would say that this vision of Windows would involve Microsoft essentially producing a Linux graphical shell similar to Gnome and KDE with a bunch of convenience tools that are typical to the Windows experience. It would have defaults like the Bing brower and all the typical Windows revenue-generating stuff. I don’t think the…

What people are asking on this thread, that Microsoft just move everything to a Linux distro, is a gargantuan task. It will not happen in 10 years. It might not happen in 20 years but mark my words. Windows will switch to Linux within our lifetime.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#179

Post by dangus »

philistine wrote: post #178
dangus wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s just as easy to run a script to remove them on Windows but most people don’t do that. I would say that this vision of Windows would involve Microsoft essentially producing a Linux graphical shell similar to Gnome and KDE with a bunch of convenience tools that are typical to the Windows experience. It would have defaults like the Bing brower and all the typical Windows revenue-generating stuff. I don’t think the…

What people are asking on this thread, that Microsoft just move everything to a Linux distro, is a gargantuan task. It will not happen in 10 years. It might not happen in 20 years but mark my words. Windows will switch to Linux within our lifetime.

The realistic way I see it happening is more like a product split rather than an explicit migration, or leveraging compatibility layers.

One day Microsoft would say, hey, Windows 15 is Linux-based. It'll run most of your Windows stuff either natively with some nice developer tooling to make a transition or using a compatibility layer (which, as we know, Linux already has!)

But you can keep using Windows 14 for a very, very long time.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

#180

Post by esperent »

llbbdd wrote: post #172
esperent wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few months ago I switched from Windows 11 to Ubuntu on my laptop. Coming from a decade of experience running servers with various flavors of Linux it's not much of a learning curve for me. And look, I love Ubuntu. I'm sticking with it (although kinda wish I'd been less safe and chosen Fedora or OpenSuse). But, to be honest, I've had, and continue to have, a ton of problems related to hardware. Problems waking from…

> None of these are quite deal breakers. Sure, I have to open and close my laptop lid three or four times to get the external monitor to switch back on, and and the login prompt will only show on my laptop screen which gets set to 1% brightness every restart, so if it's sunny I have to stick my face right against the screen to see it. I know there are tradeoffs everywhere in life but man, these are deal breakers. I'd…

I guess it says a lot about Windows that it reached the point where I don't consider these deal breakers.

Usually I can use muscle memory to bypass the login screen so it's not quite as bad. It's only if I do something wrong that I need to see it.

Post reply on HN