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Re: Age Simulation Suit

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post #43

From what I recall, there are retirement homes (the examples I'm thinking of are in Asia) that make use of these suits in their onboarding processes, where they need to wear these suits for a few hours to understand some of the challenges their patients experience, and develop empathy when they can't walk as fast or do things that we'd expect in short order. I would love to see more widespread adoption of these suits…

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Re: Age Simulation Suit

#172
post #28

One thing you have to experience to really get it, that cannot be simulated with a mechanical suit or transmitted through words, is all the f-ing little aches you get past a certain point. I´m now convinced it is this that makes older people cranky. Some days, my body is just constantly in a low but annoying pain somewhere , and it seems in increasingly weird, obscure places you never even thought about. I dont even…

This is one of the big psychological benefits of being physically active. If you're fairly physically active, e.g. doing 60+ min of high heart rate cardio or intense anaerobic exercise a day, you'll always be sore somewhere. Maybe it's your thighs from yesterday's squats. Your lower back from a long run. Your elbow when you tried that dynamic move on a climb you've been projecting. And once you accept and embrace tha…

> doing 60+ min of high heart rate cardio or intense anaerobic exercise a day,

Per day?? Does anyone really do that? I aim for a bit more than 60 minutes a week.

Re: Age Simulation Suit

#173
post #127

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This is very true, which is why consistency is so key. I think the reason so many people perceive their health falling off in their 40s is that this is when the cumulative weight of increasing life responsibilities (kids, career advancement, caring for elder relatives, etc.) really hits hard, making it more and more difficult to find time/energy for regular exercise.

True. But you can also be smart about it, and it doesn't have to be something that takes your whole afternoon. 15 minutes of home exercise instead of media scrolling, and at the end of the week, it is 1:45, at the end of the month 7:45 that you've done something. Or just a simple door frame exercise bar where you do a pushup or two now and then. These small things add up. Or to go with friends to play football or my…

I've managed to build a significant amount of muscle mass just from doing stretchy-band PT exercises to deal with shoulder pain. 10-15 minutes nearly every day makes a big difference. I've also started developing some serious leg muscles just from walking up and down stairs in my 2-story house (+basement) and around my mildly hilly neighborhood.

I drive as little as possible; I went on a 1200 mile road trip last weekend and I'm still paying for so much sitting.

Re: Age Simulation Suit

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If you think that the evils of Xi Jinping outweigh the suffering of billions, you should consider killing Xi Jinping. Plenty of people tried killing Hitler, and Xi Jinping is apparently even worse? >There simply isn’t any positive to immortality, besides You mean, besides billions of people not rotting to death in their own bodies? Besides that little incredibly unimportant easy-to-overlook thing? >Can you explain wh…

I can't see how there wouldn't be a revolution if the rich had all this anti-aging technology and the plebs would sit there and watch. People like to cope a lot, they are fine with playing whack a mole with 50 different diseases and putting the 90 year old through chemo, but treating aging (the actual root cause)? OH MY GOD MUH NATURE

I wasn't going to respond because this comment is so dense, but I feel like it's valuable to the conversation to point out: wtf do you mean "people"? I've literally never met anyone who shares my view on this.

Re: Age Simulation Suit

#175
post #6

Geriatric simulation is interesting, but couldn't this also be applied to pediatric simulation for improved vision, hearing, strength and endurance? I don't see any show stoppers preventing the development of a youth-augmentation exosuit blending AR sensory augmentation, powered exoskeleton support, haptics, and AI adaptive controls.

I think you're missing the point. You use something like this to help in design/testing of accessible spaces. An exosuit can't cut you half to help you make better children's spaces.

> An exosuit can't cut you half

But you can build a room twice as big. We are straying away from the exosuit idea though.

Re: Age Simulation Suit

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I kind of agree but on the other hand I think it would also change the calculus a lot, if the dictator was going to live to 700, wouldn't it be more likely for someone to act and try to get him out because now the calculus might be that it's just better to wait it out than try to set anything up? It's a bit hard to visualize that kind of world because so many other things would also be different, and if the politicia…

Now this is some of that top-shelf cope I've heard about.

Less than the cope in this thread though. MUH NATURE, MUH WISDOM, MUH 8000 YEAR OLD PUTIN. Have you thought about the 5000 year old Kim Jong Un yet?

Re: Age Simulation Suit

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Doing this is probably a net good but also a bit risky. It creates the impression that there's one experience we all go through as we decline, when in reality it's pretty wildly different. It's helpful to build some empathy, but also a limited understanding. For instance, these suits might restrict movement but they don't simulate hip or knee pain. They don't simulate shortness of breath, etc. It certainly doesn't in…

Ha, you haven't seen the add-on upgrade list: Knee pain simulator simulating knee problems (1 pair of knee wraps with build-in stimulus elements, incl. bag) 200,00 Kyphosis simulator simulating a hunchback (1 hip belt, 1 neck strap and 1 walking stick, incl. bag) 190,00 COPD simulator simulating shortness of breath (1 rib bandage and 1 adjustable nose clip, incl. cleaning set and bag) 170,00 Tremor simulator simulati…

This is starting to look like a BDSM shop, but without the fun.

Compared to the suit, this is next level. Limiting your senses and movement can help you design an environment that the elderly find useable, kind of like screen filters that simulate color blindness. But actually causing pain goes beyond these practical considerations.

Re: Age Simulation Suit

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This is one of the big psychological benefits of being physically active. If you're fairly physically active, e.g. doing 60+ min of high heart rate cardio or intense anaerobic exercise a day, you'll always be sore somewhere. Maybe it's your thighs from yesterday's squats. Your lower back from a long run. Your elbow when you tried that dynamic move on a climb you've been projecting. And once you accept and embrace tha…

> doing 60+ min of high heart rate cardio or intense anaerobic exercise a day, Per day?? Does anyone really do that? I aim for a bit more than 60 minutes a week.

> If you're fairly physically active

> (meaning well above most state-recommended guidelines)

So yeah some people do. High level amateur and pro athletes put in much, much more. I view it as a cheat code to lead a longer, healthier life. While my less active friends are complaining about lower back pain shuffling into their cars, I'm able to carry large boxes up many flights of stairs with minimal issue.

FWIW I used to have awful digestion issues before I started working out regularly and now have gone back to my teenage baseline of guzzling peppers and chili oil.

Re: Age Simulation Suit

#179
post #133

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Limited understanding is far better than no understanding.

The post I made laid out several reasons why that might not be the case or at least is not axiomatic.

I must have missed that? You seem to point out that 1) getting old is different for all of us, and 2) that this doesn't simulate every single facet of old age. I don't see how this takes away from the benefits of establishing at least some understanding of old age.

Re: Age Simulation Suit

#180
post #57

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I can't argue if it's 'healthy' or not, but anecdotal accounts say that going meat only cures most of these pains in about 30 days. I've tried it. 65 year old dad tried it. Coworkers and friends. It worked for everyone. No one has remained meat only, but it taught us all to watch what we eat like hawks.

I mean, it is a hard line elimination diet. If you watch what happens with reintroduction, you can provably figure out where the issues are.

Yup, but getting people to try it involve so much effort you only really do it for people you care about. It's amazing how resistant people are to eating only meat for a month or two, but drinking alcohol is no problem. Chemical preservatives? No problem. Added sugars? No problem. Seed oils washed in solvents? No problem.
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