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Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #119

I think shadow banning is harmful. But I have been ostracized all my life so I am definitely biased

you will meet assholes in your life, but if everyone you meet is an asshole, you're the asshole think on this

Or you’re just different in a society that doesn’t tolerate differences.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #86

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How do you measure viable? Twitter is still the best place to hear and read about breaking news.

It’s best only if you ignore the signal to noise ratio. I might read “breaking news” on Twitter first, but simultaneously I’ll see the other 10 variants of reality about said “breaking news” with no way to discern between them quickly. By the time you’ve fact checked anything, the regular news has already reported it

Yes this is a big problem. You have to very carefully curate your list of people you trust.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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He didn't say it was good, he said it was the best. To counter his point, you would need to provide a sufficient alternative. I'm pointing this out because if there is one, I'd be interested in it as well. For now, I'm just browsing HN, Reuters, and AP every morning.

Reddit

Reddit is definitely worse.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #8

I am not an Elon or X fan, and I don’t think this is Good, but Twitter’s policy pre-X to comply with national content laws was to geo-block content when a government demanded it be blocked. I don’t recall if the algorithmic shadow-ban was in that toolkit pre-X as well, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Again, I don’t think this is a good outcome, but it’s not substantially at odds with what Twitter pre-Elon would’ve done…

Elon fights UK, Brazil, Australia, Germany, and other democracies but turns a blind eye to every autocracy on the planet engaging in far more insidious censorship. Worse he will genuflect towards those autocrats. Interesting.

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Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #85

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imo the bigger talking point is that Twitter post-acquisition has been working pathetically to curb organic buzzes in favor of manufactured trends, even harder than its previous left-leaning management. Effect of that being observed in Turkish politics is a downstream issue to that. Twitter's strict "fun wins" algorithm of past seem like it had been a major driver in e.g. Arab Spring.

The idea that a large company has ever "leaned left" in any real sense is a bit ridiculous.

What is left? Your definition might be very different than the majority.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Decentralized socials haven't found a great way to generate informational bandwidth comparable to peak Twitter. Twitter demographic is thoroughly desensitized with data bandwidth and will not move to alternatives that don't offer current Twitter even though it's nowhere near the rosy peak.

Twitter has 611 million monthly active users.

More than 245 million people worldwide use Twitter daily.

64.14% of Twitter users are men, while 35.86% are Women.

Most of Twitter’s audience (36.6%) belongs to the 25-34 age group.

With 103.96 million users, the United States has the highest number of Twitter users.

Twitter users in the United States spend an average of 34 minutes and 6 seconds daily.

Twitter generated a revenue of $744 million in the first half of 2024.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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The sole reason I'm still on Twitter/X is that it's still ground zero for the startup scene. Paul Graham, Sam Altman, Garry Tan, and thousands of other VCs, CEOs, founders, and engineers are highly active and visible. Also, I cannot stand BlueSky, as much I want to like it. There's this intense moralizing and pile-on culture that reminds me of the worst of pre-Musk Twitter. I'll never forget joining BlueSky late last…

Thanks for the anecdote (honestly; this isn't snark). I haven't used bluesky and I like to see people's perspectives. Do you have any links to the inoffensive stuff that people thought was fascist? Also are these official lists or are you just saying "someone out there put my account on their own list of accounts they don't like"? I dont know how the platform works and if its the first then wow but if its the second…

‘There are two sexes’ is a fascist sentence on blusky according to the voting there. Users decide.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Reddit is terribly corrupted by something , but I don't think it's communism or socialism. Proof by contradiction: communists and socialists are very strong advocates for punching everyone they think are Nazis, but if you ever hint at that on Reddit (especially as your first comment), or you call Elon or Trump a Nazi, you'll be banned. Identical to X, it's a platform that pushes what the corporate overlords want you…

Which subreddits are you talking about? 'Cause I'm pretty certain calling anyone a Nazi with zero discretion is a sign you're "normal" on Reddit, almost as if it were a purity test.

Reddit: what’s the password

User: Nazi

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #129

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What a condescending viewpoint, that imagines I wholly lack agency, and you somehow have it and are above influence. And that seemingly lumps in any perspective right of center with fascism. This is excessively reductive, and this simplistic worldview isn't doing you any favors. You can curate the content you see on Twitter, and I'm not interested in fascist content. It's as easy as that. A certain population of Blue…

As many have begun to realize, the parent comment to yours is a large reason why the Democrats lost the 2024 election, and yet so many seem all too willing to double down on this rhetoric regardless of whether people are seeking a more balanced conversation.

Most democrats I listen to said they would rather lose than change their ideals.
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