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Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by troupo »

UltraSane wrote: post #131
abenga wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a gulf and many shades between "this code should never be on an internet-connected device" and "it doesn't matter if this code is copied everywhere by absolutely anyone".

To me "highly confidential" would mean "isolated from the internet" or else it isn't going to be "highly confidential" for very long.

Have you seen a lot of code from Klarna, Storytel, Spotify (companies I've worked at)?

None of these companies are isolated from the internet.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by troupo »

astrange wrote: post #109
isodev wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a pretty good word, let's not forget how LLMs learned about code in the first place... by "stealing" all the snippets they can get their curl hands on.

And by reading the docs, and by autogenerating code samples and testing them against verifiers, and by paying a lot of people to write sample code for sample questions.

Yeah, none of that happened with LLMs

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by pjmlp »

The irony of this, is that Microsoft was trying to push CoPilot everywhere, however eventually Apple, Google and JetBrains have their own AI integrations, taking CoPilot out of the loop.

Slowly the AI craziness at Microsoft is taking the similar shape, of going all in at the begining and then losing to the competition, that they also had with Web (IE), mobile (Windows CE/Pocket PC/WP 7/WP 8/UWP), the BUILD sessions that used to be all about UWP with the same vigour as they are all AI nowadays, and then puff, competition took over even if they started later, because Microsoft messed up delivery among everyone trying to meet their KPIs and OKRs.

I also love the C++ security improvements on this release.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by pjmlp »

not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

I managed to get most AIs to generate C# code when I ask for Java stuff, so it is always a kind of template generator that still isn't quite there.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by zer00eyz »

not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

> What am I doing wrong?

My coding ranges from "exotic" to "boiler plate" on any given day.

> Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico

Yea... Asking Claude to help you with a low documentation build root system is going to go about the same way, I know first hand about how this works.

> I asked it to create 7x10 monochromatic pixelmaps

Wrong tool for the job here. I dont think IDE and Pixelmaps have as large of an intersection as you think they do. Claude thinks in tokens not pixels.

Pick a common language (js, python, rust, golang) pick something easy (web page, command line script, data ingestion) and start there. See what it can do and does well, then start pushing into harder things.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by postalcoder »

dijit wrote: post #145
viraptor wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not a realistic concern. If you're working on highly confidential code (in a serious meaning of that phrase), your while environment is already either offline or connecting only through a tightly controlled corporate proxy. There's no accidental leaks to AI from those environments.

thanks for giving the security department more reasons to think that way. I spent the last 6 months trying to convince them not to block all outbound traffic by default.

The right middle ground is running Little Snitch in alert mode. The initial phase of training the filters and manually approving requests is painful, but it's a lot better than an air gap.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by SkyPuncher »

_boffin_ wrote: post #160
xoac wrote: post #152

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He asked what he was doing wrong?

too big of tasks. break them down and then proceed from there. have it build out task lists in a TASKS.md. review those tasks. do you agree? no? work with it to refine. implement one by one. have it add the tests. refactor after awhile as {{model}} doesn't like to do utility functions a lot. right now, about +50k lines in to a project that's vibecoded. i sit back and direct and it plays. Imagine the CS 100 class wher…

This is the way.

I run interviews at my company. We allow/encourage AI.

The number one failure method is people throwing all of the requirements in upfront. They get one good pass then fail.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by XenophileJKO »

not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

Ok. several tips I can give. 1. Setup a sub-agent to do RESEARCH. It is important that it only has read-only and web access tools. 2. Use planning mode and also ask the agent to use the subagent to research best pratices with the tech that you are wanting to do, before it builds a plan. 3. When ever it gets hung up.. tell it to use the sub-agent to research the solution.

That will get you a lot better initial solution. I typically use Sonnet for the sub-agents and Opus for the main agent, but sonnet all around should be fine too for the most part.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

It’s good at doing stuff like “host this all in Docker. Make a Postgres database with a Users table. Make a FastAPI CRUD endpoint for Users. Make a React site with a homepage, login page, and user dashboard”.

It’ll successfully produce _something_ like that, because there’s millions of examples of those technologies online. If you do anything remotely niche, you need to hold its hand far more.

The more complicated your requirements are, the closer you are to having “spicy autocomplete”. If you’re just making a crud react app, you can talk in high level natural language.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by awalsh128 »

not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

One of the things you can do is provide a guidance file like CLAUDE.md including not only style preferences but also domain knowledge so it has greater context and knows where to look. Just ask it make one and then update and change as needed.
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