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Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by mstade »

aranelsurion wrote: post #125
toastercat wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text solved this 17 years ago with the 40-year-old shareware model. It's also faster than Zed, works on Linux/Win/MacOS, and is decently customizable.

There was a time around ST2 when it felt like everyone was using it and it could've become The Editor, then something happened and it's been left in the dust. I wasn't even aware but apparently even fourth version of ST was released, and that was in 2021. I lost track of what happened there (moved to Vim back then), was it VSCode that killed it?

I don't get this Sublime is dead nonsense. It's still being updated and works great. It's been my editor of choice for years and I happily pay for my license. I'd probably pay more if they asked me, it's tremendous value for money in my opinion.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by aranelsurion »

mstade wrote: post #171
aranelsurion wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a time around ST2 when it felt like everyone was using it and it could've become The Editor, then something happened and it's been left in the dust. I wasn't even aware but apparently even fourth version of ST was released, and that was in 2021. I lost track of what happened there (moved to Vim back then), was it VSCode that killed it?

I don't get this Sublime is dead nonsense. It's still being updated and works great. It's been my editor of choice for years and I happily pay for my license. I'd probably pay more if they asked me, it's tremendous value for money in my opinion.

I dislike "$x is dead" as much if not more as you do, and I'm sure it works fine as something doesn't need to be the most popular choice to be working.

With that being said, just a quick look at, for example Stack Overflow 2025 survey tells me it doesn't have the same mindshare it once had.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by kiney »

ignoramous wrote: post #105
zkoch wrote: post #98

I love working in Zed. It really is a delight to use, and I think the Agentic coding integration is really well done. I'm excited to see them investing in this space more. I understand people's concerns about VC funding, but I think building quality products takes capital. The funding is still relatively small, especially when you compare it to players like Cursor, etc. And I think Zed is a much, much better product!…

> And as others have said, Nathan (CEO) is a delightful human. Hate cancel culture as much as the next techbro, but since y'all point out they're "a delightful human", it'd be interesting to see how Nathan then responds to concerns raised in some quarters: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/36604

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Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #157
arkits wrote: post #44

Have they fixed the big/feature where it insists on downloading entire distributions of Node.js for running it's language server functionality?

That is the great thing about Zed. Stuff just works.

That's not great at all. It's not acceptable to "just work" by downloading and running third party software without asking the user.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by metaltyphoon »

toastercat wrote: post #99
mccoyb wrote: post #20

I love the spirit of Zed. From the principles to the low-level implementation details, it all screams "good taste". It's immensely interesting as an object of study (the code is great, from GPUI all the way up). Having said that, I don't think an editor should be VC backed. It's the obvious pragmatic choice to get a team together to support a thing, but I'm concerned by it.

Sublime Text solved this 17 years ago with the 40-year-old shareware model. It's also faster than Zed, works on Linux/Win/MacOS, and is decently customizable.

How is Sublime faster?

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

shafyy wrote: post #9
pbiggar wrote: post #8

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I don't know why you are being downvoted. This is a real issue and a legitimate concern to have as a user of this software. I feel the same way (never used Zed in the first place because they are VC backed, but this would have been the final straw for me, too).

Because dragging politics into things is fucking obnoxious. It's off-topic, it gets people riled up so they are arguing about politics instead of having substantive discussion, and it degrades the community by threatening to destroy the focus on tech in favor of political slap fights. In short, going out of your way to bring up politics is being a jerk, and people don't appreciate that.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by s777 »

throwaway329044 wrote: post #17
shafyy wrote: post #9

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I don't know why you are being downvoted. This is a real issue and a legitimate concern to have as a user of this software. I feel the same way (never used Zed in the first place because they are VC backed, but this would have been the final straw for me, too).

Because Paul consistently violates HN guidelines: > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

How is VC funding not political?

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by ignoramous »

kiney wrote: post #173
ignoramous wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And as others have said, Nathan (CEO) is a delightful human. Hate cancel culture as much as the next techbro, but since y'all point out they're "a delightful human", it'd be interesting to see how Nathan then responds to concerns raised in some quarters: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/36604

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> being "islamophobic" is actually the right thing to do from a humanitarian perspective

  Every perpetrator of terrorism sees himself as a victim. Such is the case not only with individual terrorists, who often compete with their enemies over who is more victimized, but also with terrorist groups and nation states.
- Bessel van der Kolk (author, The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma).

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Post by kstrauser »

ewf wrote: post #167
aranelsurion wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a time around ST2 when it felt like everyone was using it and it could've become The Editor, then something happened and it's been left in the dust. I wasn't even aware but apparently even fourth version of ST was released, and that was in 2021. I lost track of what happened there (moved to Vim back then), was it VSCode that killed it?

good question. I think the community fell off and many plugins were left unmaintained. I was using it for over a decade up until recently. ST4 had so many plugin issues and it stopped being worth manually fixing.

For me, it was that the maintainer of a language plugin I used was, um, challenging to work with. I wanted to contribute to add some much-requested functionality and he talked to me like I was a toddler and warned me not to waste his time.

Well, OK then. Back to Emacs I went.

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