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Toothpaste made with keratin may protect and repair damaged teeth: study

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Re: Toothpaste made with keratin may protect and repair damaged teeth: study

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Post by jfengel »

tsimionescu wrote: post #152
inglor_cz wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was pretty rare even among medieval kings to live to be 70. The first English king to be definitely alive on their 70th birthday (though no longer "in office") was Philip of Spain (jure uxoris) in 1597, so not a medieval king. That is Early Modern Age. Elizabeth I. didn't make it, though barely, and so the next to reach 70 was George II. in November 1753! Only since the second half of the 18th century is it common…

Medieval kings were warriors and very often victims of assassination, so they had a way lower life expectancy than a typical peasant of their times.

Medieval European nobility tend not to die in battle. They were captured and ransomed. Richard III died in battle but nobody was gonna ransom him.

Assassination definitely brings down the average. But a fair number of English monarchs managed to die in bed. (I was gonna write British, but no: the Scottish kings practically never died in bed. Unless they were stabbed in their sleep.)

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Post by mackey »

dotancohen wrote: post #55
bobajeff wrote: post #5

>While fluoride toothpastes are currently used to slow this process, keratin-based treatments were found to stop it completely. That's really great I hope to use this some day.

Sensodyne toothpaste has two lines: one that contains a mild painkiller (Rapid Relief) and one that [claims to] repair small cracks in teeth (Repair & Protect). I use the latter. I do not know if it works, but I use it. I have never suffered from tooth pain before or after.

It depends on the country also. In the UK for example, Repair & Protect uses novamin but in the US it just uses stannous fluoride.

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Post by aspenmayer »

buybackoff wrote: post #156
alyx wrote: post #149

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Never heard of Novamin but doesn't look promising? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7068624/ Conclusion Review shows that Novamin has significantly less clinical evidence to prove its effectiveness as a remineralization agent in treating both carious and non-carious lesion. Hence, better designed clinical trials should be carried out in the future before definitive recommendations can be made.

Inetersting, the paper explain how remineralisation works and the role of F and fluoroapatite. This reminds me the recent Veritasium video about why Teflon is so strong - F chemical bonds are the strongest. For Novamin alone, I've seen and understood the claims of sensitivity protection with hydroxyl-carbonate apatite (HCA). The paper explains it in 4.3. The layer is temporary and protects from acids, conserving the…

> is nice in the morning before breakfast.

I typically brush after meals, not before, but however you do it is better than not doing so at all.

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Post by petulla »

buybackoff wrote: post #66

The picture says "enamel-mimicking" and the text says "protective coating that mimics the structure and function of natural enamel", so it looks like a protective layer, not true repair. I've been using a paste with novamin lately, it also creates a protective layer and is also marketed as "repair". I like it and feel some heat when it contacts with teeth, so the chemical reaction must be working. But the marketing l…

Try biomin F, newer novamin

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petulla wrote: post #175
buybackoff wrote: post #66

The picture says "enamel-mimicking" and the text says "protective coating that mimics the structure and function of natural enamel", so it looks like a protective layer, not true repair. I've been using a paste with novamin lately, it also creates a protective layer and is also marketed as "repair". I like it and feel some heat when it contacts with teeth, so the chemical reaction must be working. But the marketing l…

Try biomin F, newer novamin

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Post by card_zero »

aidenn0 wrote: post #169
card_zero wrote: post #154

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No it wouldn't. Following the scheme a couple of comments above, we have: Y of X providing Z - Windows Subsystem for Linux. Y providing X on Z - Linux Subsystem for Windows. The former is "for [having]", the latter is "for [use on]".

"Windows Subsystem" is a noun-phrase here though. If you want an X providing Y on Z, then it would be "Windows Subsystem for Linux on Windows"

I regard that as Microsoft's problem.

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Post by YZF »

aspenmayer wrote: post #173
buybackoff wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Inetersting, the paper explain how remineralisation works and the role of F and fluoroapatite. This reminds me the recent Veritasium video about why Teflon is so strong - F chemical bonds are the strongest. For Novamin alone, I've seen and understood the claims of sensitivity protection with hydroxyl-carbonate apatite (HCA). The paper explains it in 4.3. The layer is temporary and protects from acids, conserving the…

> is nice in the morning before breakfast. I typically brush after meals, not before, but however you do it is better than not doing so at all.

FWIW I think the theory is that you have some window before whatever on your teeth turns into hard plaque. So brushing in the morning helps remove any accumulation that happened overnight. I guess brushing after breakfast might be slightly more efficient in the sense that it will clean away/remove food remnants you've just eaten but not sure how much difference it makes in practice as long as you're brushing again later (e.g. before you go to sleep).

EDIT: Technically plaque forms faster but only hardens into "tartar" after about 24 hours or more.

EDIT2: There is another reason to avoid brushing you teeth immediately after a meal. Supposedly they're softer due to higher acidity or something along those lines. It's recommended to wait 30-60 minutes after a meal before brushing.

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Post by mcswell »

card_zero wrote: post #154
1718627440 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That one isn't an example of this. It is actually a Windows Subsystem (at least WSL1) that exposes Linux syscalls, so is for Linux userspace programs. There is also the Windows Subsystem for Win32 and there used to be a Windows Subsystem for Unix. Linux Subsystem would be completely wrong, because it is a Subsystem of Windows not of Linux.

No it wouldn't. Following the scheme a couple of comments above, we have: Y of X providing Z - Windows Subsystem for Linux. Y providing X on Z - Linux Subsystem for Windows. The former is "for [having]", the latter is "for [use on]".

I wrote the comment you're referring to, but it wasn't intended as a complete schema, rather as a way of saying two nouns in a compound can be related in most any way. The interpretation is pragmatic and conventional, not syntactic. (And while [W S] is a compound, [W S for L] isn't, it's a (compound) noun plus a prepositional phrase.)

While W S for L is fine in the intended sense, it could just as well mean a subsystem on Linux that runs Windows (like Vine, I guess). Parallel examples might be Brake Pads for Chevys or Oven Cleaner for Microwaves.

As further examples of the weirdness of compound nouns in English, consider Atomic Scientist, which does not mean a scientist who is atomic, but rather an 'ist' (= person) who does atomic science. Likewise Nuclear Physicist, Artificial Intelligence Researcher (at least for now, since AI systems aren't researchers :)).

Re: Toothpaste made with keratin may protect and repair damaged teeth: study

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Post by chronogram »

mackey wrote: post #172
dotancohen wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sensodyne toothpaste has two lines: one that contains a mild painkiller (Rapid Relief) and one that [claims to] repair small cracks in teeth (Repair & Protect). I use the latter. I do not know if it works, but I use it. I have never suffered from tooth pain before or after.

It depends on the country also. In the UK for example, Repair & Protect uses novamin but in the US it just uses stannous fluoride.

I think Canada has it with Novamin, while the US doesn't. The Netherlands does, and Germany doesn't. All with the same "repair & protect" name. It's puzzling. Now Germany does have it under a new "clinical repair" name, of course the "clinical" ones in the US do not, those do contain soap for some reason (sodium lauryl sulfate) which I don't think I've seen in any other country.
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