Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

worldofmatthew.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–180 of 192 posts

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#171

Post by kube-system »

mnw21cam wrote: post #163
kube-system wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's sexual for a decent proportion of people - just the fact that this article was tagged NSFW shows that. Most workplaces would find there to be many categories of inappropriate things other than sexual content: violence, profanity, non-sexual imagery of people in unprofessional contexts, etc.

I don't think anyone is seriously considering that this article was flagged as NSFW for the reasons you quote.

Office environments expect a certain degree of modesty, far beyond most people's bar for "sexuality".

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#172

Post by pmlnr »

jodrellblank wrote: post #115
pmlnr wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan?! The place where there's a festival of dicks? Lol. It shows how little you've seen of the world.

The USA has people taking part in the World Naked Bike Rides and the Folsom Street Fair, but the USA has "norms against public nudity". The millions of people going outside each day are not naked or expecting to see others naked. That's a "norm" and it applies to Japan as well; clothed is normal, the exceptions are few and constrained to a few places/situations/events. A photo of a Japanese public space, would you ex…

However, shungas are fine, mangas are fine, and so there's nudity there.

Nudity doesn't only mean people on the street without clothes.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#173

Post by tremon »

Barrin92 wrote: post #29
pmlnr wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a much bigger question why, such a completely natural and normal thing, like nudity, in the supposed to be educated - at least in basic biology - 2025, be made and exclusive thing. The intro of the 1986 Once upon a time... Life animation series, that's the best human biology educational program that exists to this very day, starts with scenes many would classify as nudity - but it's also essential to the topic a…

>It's a much bigger question why, such a completely natural and normal thing, like nudity, [...] be made and exclusive thing. As Nietzsche said, the time has come when we have to pay for having been Christians for two thousand years. That's the simple answer, nudity and sexuality (also entirely natural and normal), have been deemed sinful, you're supposed to avert your eyes from it, and so on. It's so deeply ingraine…

you're supposed to avert your eyes from it

Only if it leads you to sin, right? According to the original, if you can look at a naked body without immediately humping it, you're free to keep looking.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#174

Post by const_cast »

zakki wrote: post #160
danbruc wrote: post #90

Why is this discussion always about nudity and sexuality? Would it not be much better if children see people having fun fucking each other than seeing people murder each other in countless ways? Why is it more acceptable to show Wile E. Coyote trying to murder Road Runner by dropping anvils onto him than showing Bugs Bunny and Lola Bunny fuck each other? Ignoring for the moment that children probably find the former…

I believe if we took that path (children see people having fun fucking each other), we will see more 9yo pregnant girls going to school. Are you ready as a parent?

Why would this be the case? I understand that intuitively it makes sense, but does it actually? What evidence do we have that girls are just like... predisposed to be "sluts"?

In cultures where sex is more taboo, they have bigger problems with teen pregnancy and early marriage. In the US, as access to porn has increased teen pregnancy has plummeted.

Making sex shameful doesn't just magically make people not do it. Tell kids "be abstinent, mmkay" doesnt lower teen pregnancy - it increases it.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#175

Post by laurent_du »

danaris wrote: post #116
laurent_du wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be real, everyone feels nudity is inherently sexual, except on HN and probably on reddit where men love to claim that it's not. I don't know if it's virtue-signalling, sexual frustration, or something else. It does sound weird and creepy to me - grown up men who claim that naked women are not arousing, the same men who rally en masse every time pornography censorship is discussed, to complain about freedom of e…

Tell me you've never been outside the US without saying you've never been outside the US. Taking just one example, in Finland it is extremely common for people to visit saunas, and from what I've heard, you'd be laughed at if you tried to wear clothes (or even a towel) in the sauna. One Finn posting online I saw a while back remarked that a lot of the problems Americans have would be resolved if we all saw our grandm…

I have never been in the US, and have been living in Finland for more than 15 years. Hilarious how wrong you are.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#176

Post by const_cast »

9x39 wrote: post #150
do_not_redeem wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every job is glamorous. Would you be proud of your child for becoming a garbage man? "You'd make such a good garbage man!", we could say encouragingly to a new grad considering between sanitization engineering and Stanford. Probably not, yet society depends on garbagemen to function smoothly. And we should be happy that in the modern era people can pursue unglamorous careers, and be accepted by society, and not s…

Garbage collection is similar to other male trades - they tend to be stable, respectable (although not the level of law/med to be sure but certainly among blue collar work), often well paid for the entry reqs. Did humans stop abusing one another and I missed it, and all the harms of being used sexually by the world are gone now? >It's only a dwindling number of bigots who look down on people because of their career c…

Garbage collectors sell their body to a much greater degree than many sex workers. Male-centered fields that sell their body are celebrated, but female-centered ones are degraded. It is, indeed, misogyny.

I would be much safer making porn than being in the army, or even working in a warehouse. It would be less taxing on my body.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#177

Post by const_cast »

laurent_du wrote: post #50
macintux wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question comes down to: is nudity inherently sexual? Not everyone feels it is.

Let's be real, everyone feels nudity is inherently sexual, except on HN and probably on reddit where men love to claim that it's not. I don't know if it's virtue-signalling, sexual frustration, or something else. It does sound weird and creepy to me - grown up men who claim that naked women are not arousing, the same men who rally en masse every time pornography censorship is discussed, to complain about freedom of e…

No, even you do not think nudity is sexual.

I imagine you've been to a locker room before - was that sexual? Of course not. But you're not gay, you might say.

So then it's not nudity - it's your own inclination to sex. If you see the world sexually, you'll sexualize nudity.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#178

Post by MrScruff »

sejDuQued wrote: post #108
MrScruff wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think an image can be defined as sexual based on whether or not it produces an arousal response in you or anyone else. If you looked an image featuring women who are from a culture where partial nudity is normal and not considered sexual, but you have an arousal response, does that make the image sexual?

(slow answer because HN is blocking my throwaway account "AdkamEup" from commenting quickly, so now I've created a new throwaway, and am commenting via a proxy too) It does, in the one particular context where I would be looking at it. (I understand that this response of mine is unusable for labelling images, without the context that they are displayed and viewed in. That's fine. I'm indifferent wrt. labeling picture…

Sure, I just think it's important to be precise about the language, and this type of distinction is important in a lot of other aspects of life. Generally if an image is intended to evoke a sexual response, we would classify it as pornographic (though not always). An image that wasn't intended to evoke that response may still do so, but that will be context and viewer dependent.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#179

Post by quantified »

hellojesus wrote: post #123
Barrin92 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's a much bigger question why, such a completely natural and normal thing, like nudity, [...] be made and exclusive thing. As Nietzsche said, the time has come when we have to pay for having been Christians for two thousand years. That's the simple answer, nudity and sexuality (also entirely natural and normal), have been deemed sinful, you're supposed to avert your eyes from it, and so on. It's so deeply ingraine…

> it is funny to see in particular Americans when you talk about nude beaches or mixed saunas and the general Freikörperkultur (lit: free body culture) that was so common and still has carried over How is general nudity of adult men considered by those participants? I always assumed that my nakedness would be perceived as a display of mateability, and I am concerned that my penis size relative to other men would redu…

Lots of women understand grower vs shower. So you need to get to grown stage to make that determination. Over the course of a day or two of observation, it will show.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

#180

Post by tjs8rj »

diggan wrote: post #60
tjs8rj wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every civilized culture on earth has norms against public nudity. Objectively there appears to be something more biologically successful about cultures where nudity is reserved for private spaces than those who treat it otherwise

> Every civilized culture on earth has norms against public nudity Well, not every "civilized culture" has a blanket ban on public nudity, but more of a "there is a time and place you know", like doing sauna naked and swimming naked in rivers/lakes (common in the Nordics at least) or being semi-nude (topless) at public beaches in Spain. Breastfeeding without having to shamefully cover up also seems to be more and mor…

A norm is a norm, the normal, the usual. Not the “always”. Every culture has times where nudity is acceptable or encouraged (it’d be ab-norm-al for you to shower or use the bathroom without exposing your genitals).
Post reply on HN