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FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by red-iron-pine »

thrance wrote: post #152
gigatexal wrote: post #106

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Trump isn't neutered, he's doing almost exactly what he promised he would do. Russia certainly did help, what with all the online propaganda and stuff, but attributing his victory to them is a little too easy. America had this coming for a long time, right from Reagan's plan to unite Republicans behind Christian nationalism to its realization. This was all so predictable.

The Russians have been investing in Trump since the 80s and have been unleashing aggressive Soviet-style propaganda campaigns (minus the communism part) across social media for years now. They were spending as much as $400k a month on payments to bloggers -- just online stuff -- in the run-up to the first Trump election.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by dartharva »

userbinator wrote: post #48

Maybe this will force sites to stop wasting bandwidth and stem the bloat. You should not need a gigabit connection (which I do not even have in all of my home LAN) to browse the Internet. Edit: downvoters, please explain why I need 125MB/s (that's 3 full installations of Windows 95 every second) for normal browsing.

It's not about what you may or may not need, it's about how much the telecom company is giving back in exchange of being granted a natural monopoly in their covered regions. This rescinding of regulation will only promote rent-seeking and enshittification.

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Post by financetechbro »

x-complexity wrote: post #119
izacus wrote: post #118

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Why do you feel the need to be the devils advocate? What do you get from defending this crap?

> Why do you feel the need to be the devils advocate? What do you get from defending this crap? To prevent this level of monopolar partisanship. Is this action a net-negative for ISP subscribers (i.e. everyone)? Yes. However, this doesn't give any leeway at all in ignoring the past failures of the other side when it comes to this space either. The only (legally advisable) path left is vocal advocacy for its restorati…

Why do you feel the impulse to reply to a question that was not addressed to you?

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by toss1 »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #2

Seems they really want to revert everything that made the US a world leader. - Reduce science - Reduce collected data - Reduce immigration - Reduce infrastructure - Reduce adoption of EVs

Yup

At the core, it is Anti-Science.

Why Anti-Science?

Because the answers that come from science are independent of the authoritarian ruler's whims, and that cannot be tolerated, as key to authoritarian rule is that it must be entirely responsive to the whims of the regime.

It is the same reason that completely freaked me out when I read that Lenin and Stalin had directed their death squads to target their most loyal party members first. Why the hell would they do that? It turns out it is because the most loyal party members would object to the dictator's schemes on grounds of ideological principle, and such objections or principled people could not be tolerated. Pure evil, but genius in the context of a dictator's needs.

Thus, every authoritarian regime attacks the intelligent, academic, and scientific worlds. Both Mao and Pol Pot not only executed people with scientific and academic credentials, but merely for wearing glasses which signified people who likely read a lot.

Consistent Anti-Science actions are one of the key signs you are not dealing with a mere political party, but something far worse — a full-on authoritarian takeover.

Beware.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by jonhohle »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #161
jonhohle wrote: post #110

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Telcos were given billions to expand and improve broadband for decades and never did it. If the FCC has scrapped the goal are they also scrapping the handouts? If so, it’s long overdue.

The FCC did not give those handouts, Congress did. 100 or so $10k "gifts" and I'm sure they'll do it again.

While not all, the FCC does give those handouts - https://www.fcc.gov/auction/903

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

penguin_booze wrote: post #150
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #2

Seems they really want to revert everything that made the US a world leader. - Reduce science - Reduce collected data - Reduce immigration - Reduce infrastructure - Reduce adoption of EVs

> Seems they really want to revert everything that made the US a world leader. Conservatives takes different names in different places. Calling the spade a spade, a more truthful name is 'Reggressives', no matter what the colour on the banner is. The signatures of regressivism is , among others, the yearning for the past, to bring back the old ways of life, the predisposition for worship (idolatry)--be that of imagin…

I think it’s a stretch to call the current crop of Republican leaders conservatives.

They’re radical reactionaries at best.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

thrance wrote: post #152
gigatexal wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Trump isn't neutered, he's doing almost exactly what he promised he would do. Russia certainly did help, what with all the online propaganda and stuff, but attributing his victory to them is a little too easy. America had this coming for a long time, right from Reagan's plan to unite Republicans behind Christian nationalism to its realization. This was all so predictable.

Also, Russia had nothing to do with Trump’s 2024 election even if they played a role in 2016.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by ethbr1 »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #176
penguin_booze wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seems they really want to revert everything that made the US a world leader. Conservatives takes different names in different places. Calling the spade a spade, a more truthful name is 'Reggressives', no matter what the colour on the banner is. The signatures of regressivism is , among others, the yearning for the past, to bring back the old ways of life, the predisposition for worship (idolatry)--be that of imagin…

I think it’s a stretch to call the current crop of Republican leaders conservatives. They’re radical reactionaries at best.

I’d argue the current crop of Republican leaders are radical populists (for conservative voters).

While many of their asks mirror traditional Republican social positions, they’re responsive to an economically disadvantaged class in the Republican Party that’s historically been ignored.

And while there’s certainly a lot of backroom dealing to favor business interests, I think it’d be hard to argue that the poor Republican voter has had this much power in the party… ever. (See things like immigration policy, which agribusiness is scared shitless of)

The previous Republican bargain was ‘We say we love god and guns, but let business get on with business, and we’re never going to harm the latter for the former.’

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by supertrope »

tzs wrote: post #87

Wow. The article notes: > Section 706 of the Telecommunications Act requires the FCC to determine whether broadband is being deployed "on a reasonable and timely basis" to all Americans. Carr says that when looking into whether that is being satisfied the FCC should not consider affordability because section 706 does not contain the word "affordability". But it also does not contain any words for any of the things he…

The FCC is a revolving door between industry and regulators. When you understand that the true mission of the FCC is to please big telecom it all starts to make sense. Hence the auctioning off spectrum in huge geographic blocks that only the largest corporations can finance. If the US was really serious about universal broadband there would be a Telecom Ministry doing the cable laying itself or at least local loop unbundling. If we treated roads the same way as broadband we would have private tolled highways near city cores and dirt roads in rural areas.

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Post by ethbr1 »

mattgrice wrote: post #98
giantg2 wrote: post #16

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By that definition, we haven't been leading for years since the Chinese are cranking them out much faster than Tesla. What if we want to be a world leader in satellite internet coverage? Is that a goal you support? Because that's part of what these changes are about.

By any definition has China not been leading? Socialism with chinese characteristics/ Xi Jinpeng thought is the most successful ideology currently. Free speech/free markets power has decayed since people found ways to exploit them and more powerful people found ways to aid the exploiters. The US is apparently powerless to exploit our own rare earth resources and fund/subsidize them or lithium production or photovolta…

> The US is apparently powerless to exploit our own rare earth resources

The DOD took a direct stake in a US rare earth miner / refiner, in addition to a long term purchase agreement at set prices. Apple also piled on last week (no doubt after some backroom conversations).

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/10/pentagon-to-become-largest-s...

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