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Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by lrvick » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:25 AM UTC

dlivingston wrote: post #141

lrvick wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Data enrichment brokers cross index purchase times with other data from legal factory installed spyware found in cash registers, analytics tools in proprietary software you already have on your computer, etc etc. Every time you buy an over the counter medication at the pharmacy with a credit card, the data brokers know by combining information sources, and sell it to insurance companies.

is there somewhere i can read more about this? this is very troubling information depending on the depth and scale of implementation.

https://www.gameanalytics.com/market-intelligence

Straight up spyware developers embed in games.

Several competitors exist too.

Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by bmn__ » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 10:55 AM UTC

> Collective Shout is no doubt feeling emboldened by a second public success in its efforts to police content

O wretched man that I am, who shall deliver me from these turbulent prigs?

Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by gs17 » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 2:51 PM UTC

some_random wrote: post #139

gs17 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> e.g. high chargeback rate Even this is sort of bullshit. Chargeback fees are paid by merchants and there are already high-risk merchant accounts with higher fees and cash reserve requirements as a solution.

It goes beyond this though, at some point you need to go from "this account is high-risk" to "this account is probably running stolen credit cards".

But in Steam's case, it feels more likely fraud would be attached to CS weapons or something than random porn games.

Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by gs17 » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 2:52 PM UTC

jact wrote: post #164

gs17 wrote: post #154

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> And the payment processors aren’t “book burners.” They’re acting to restrict an unsavory market that potentially hurts their business. They're not book burners... they're just trying to eliminate certain media they find objectionable? They would consider it unacceptable for Steam to, for example, make these items only purchasable through crypto/bank transfer.

Some media really is objectionable.

Then Visa/MasterCard wouldn't need to be the ones to force it.

Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by woodpanel » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 5:37 PM UTC

YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #87

woodpanel wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

given how the Brazilian state itself is notorious for censorship and turning into a judge-aucracy i guess not really about censorship bit rather who censors?

Really, it kind-of is. Governments are supposed to answer to their electorate, while corporations answer to their shareholders. While I’d prefer no censorship, one of these is less likely to turn into a tyrant than the other.

Agreed.

we live in an unhealthy place in time, if everybody claims they‘re more democratic than the other side of the spectrum, yet conveniently traverses the agreed-upon boundaries of a level playing field and utilizes foreign or supra national support.

The EU’s core function is essentially that. While the Brussels institutions are hated almost unanimously by all Europeans, it’s virtually impossible to get rid off the EU, because it represents the chance to circumvent the local democratic process for all domestic parties. Its institutional undermining of domestic democratic institutions.

Imagine you being a pro-gay-rights activist inside the deeply catholic Poland: Would you go through the slow process of convincing the Polish citizenry or would you rather skip those decades and do it via the EU-Bureaucracy?

Same is true for dissidents whether in Brazil or EU which depend upon representation via media, yet need foreign media platforms to have a say at all.

Thus as much as I despise the Brazilian government and its autocratic judges, fundamentally it is morally improper to utilize foreign help.

Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by dlivingston » Wed, Jul 23, 2025, 12:54 AM UTC

lrvick wrote: post #171

dlivingston wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is there somewhere i can read more about this? this is very troubling information depending on the depth and scale of implementation.

https://www.gameanalytics.com/market-intelligence Straight up spyware developers embed in games. Several competitors exist too.

Hmm, unfortunately, the URL is broken. "Safari can't open the page because the address is invalid." Couldn't get it to show in the internet archive, either. _puts on tinfoil hat._

Re: Australian anti-porn group claims responsibility for Steams new censorship rules

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Post by Razengan » Wed, Jul 23, 2025, 2:20 AM UTC

Let's try a social experiment:

Create an app/website called FakeMoney. Put a big ass disclaimer up front saying that it's not real money, and you can't buy anything with it, but let people buy FakeMoney with in-app purchases. Pretend it's a game.

The app just shows a number and lets you send some of it to other FakeMoney accounts.

That's it.

If there were "endpoints", people who gave you "real" cash in exchange for FakeMoney, could something like that eventually replace "real" money?