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Re: How I Use Kagi

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Is Yandex directly complicit in war crimes?

I can't vouch for the source, but this provides a factual chronology of Yandex's (forced) integration into Russian state propaganda: https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/publications/zois-spotlight/th...

Okay, propaganda, sure. Propaganda is a different argument - it compromises the quality of search - and I will happily agree with you. I want to emphasize, that the claim was: using Yandex through Kagi is supporting war criminals. Which war criminals? Which war crimes is Yandex complicit in? I plainly do not accept that propaganda === war crimes.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Try Yandex...

Not a bad solution if you're looking for things that are usually removed from results in the west, eg, torrents and stuff like that.

So streaming didn't kill the warez scene, it just got massively shadowbanned?

Re: How I Use Kagi

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I always feel really grotty about evangelising for products, but I switched to Kagi about six months ago and it really is a better experience. In almost all cases, the search results are as good as or better than Google, and I don't have to scroll through an increasing number of misleading ads to see them. I'm a happy customer. When I first switched, I would often click the button to run the search on google for quer…

To me, the killer feature has been the ability to filter out sites from my search results. I removed all of Pinterest, several tabloids and conspiracy sites, any obvious AI-generated sites that I run into, and just with that my search result quality has increased drastically. It's a feature that I'd like other search engines to adopt natively.

Imagine if they analyzed all the user-blacklisted domains and deranked them from other (new) users' results. Death of SEO!

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Unfortunately, Kagi works with Russian companies and pays them money, which in my book is a no-no. I do not want any of my money to contribute to the Russian economy in any way, because I know what is happening to people in Ukraine. (I was a Kagi subscriber, no more, because of this)

Kagi founder here. I notice you bring this up consistently in Kagi discussions. A search engine's job is to deliver the best possible results. We evaluate API sources on search quality, not geopolitics. Yandex represents 2% of our costs but contributes meaningfully to search quality - removing it would harm all users while having minimal economic impact. We've used their API since 2019 and evaluate all sources purely…

Thank you for creating Kagi, sorry that you're dealing with misguided folks and thanks for the in-depth explanation.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Kagi founder here. I notice you bring this up consistently in Kagi discussions. A search engine's job is to deliver the best possible results. We evaluate API sources on search quality, not geopolitics. Yandex represents 2% of our costs but contributes meaningfully to search quality - removing it would harm all users while having minimal economic impact. We've used their API since 2019 and evaluate all sources purely…

If you can't judge that funding war criminals is a wrong action, you should reconsider your ability to do so morally Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, startup founders aren't exactly known for putting anything else above money and their ideas, particularly actual human well-being. Consider that you, too, will have to live in the world that you help create, including the consequences of "a mere 2%"

So by your logic everyone who participates in capitalism (including yourself) is immoral.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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"people", as in a perpetually offended tiny minority that want the entire world to bend to their comfort bubble. I'm fairly certain you're also one of the users that incessantly badgered them about excluding Brave's index, trying to portray it like the majority of Kagi users wanted that. Vlad's stance is very refreshing in the current politically correct world: if including an index makes for better search results (=…

'Offended' is a weird word to describe people choosing to boycott evil.

Then get your ass off of the internet because there as so many commercial entities profiting off of every bit of your use.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Yes, start here https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard (logged in)

FWIW, it's much better to downrank a page than to outright block it. Blocking is for a page you never, ever want to see. I personally dislike Pinterest and TikTok, but sometimes it might be the only source of an image or video. Blocking means you don't get to see that result.

Most of the time I agree with you, and prefer downranking, but I have to take issue with your example of Pinterest, because my experience with Pinterest is that if I'm searching for a specific image, I will always get a thumbnail of exactly what I want from Pinterest, but when I click on it, I'm taken to a page of completely unrelated results. It is beyond frustrating, and specifically blocking Pinterest was one of the primary features that sold me on Kagi.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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I always feel really grotty about evangelising for products, but I switched to Kagi about six months ago and it really is a better experience. In almost all cases, the search results are as good as or better than Google, and I don't have to scroll through an increasing number of misleading ads to see them. I'm a happy customer. When I first switched, I would often click the button to run the search on google for quer…

I switched as well and I actually use the AI assistant since then primarily. It’s awesome to connect search directly with AI, almost always get what I want immediately.

I'm curious, how is the AI assistant experience different from Perplexity or even ChatGPT's search feature? Is it just the convenience of having several models there or are the outputs inherently better because the results are from Kagi's engine instead of google?
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