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The chemical secrets that help keep honey fresh for so long

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Re: The chemical secrets that help keep honey fresh for so long

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I doubt it, but even if that were the case it would not support your earlier claim. When fermenting things you will generally intentionally introduce a very small quantity of a carefully controlled culture to the bulk media. Which is to say, you would almost certainly have your own yeast culture at home that you would inoculate the mead-to-be with. Maintaining a sourdough start is an example of this practice. If you…

It's absolutely why its done, because people would otherwise inadvertently initiate fermentation with it. Not seeing this and instead going for 'hehe my little dude, pasteurisation doesn't destroy the sugar, you can still add yeast and ferment it' doesn't come across as particularly impressive from my perspective.

> pasteurisation doesn't destroy the sugar

I never said that? It's well known that heat alters honey.

Obviously the purpose of pasteurization is either preservation or food safety (but I repeat myself) as opposed to preventing people from making mead. I claim no particular knowledge of which specific microorganisms are primarily responsible for the spoilage that might otherwise occur, nor the precise consequences of such spoilage.

Re: The chemical secrets that help keep honey fresh for so long

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I'm so sorry but I can't help myself: 01975 is the dialling code for somewhere in Aberdeenshire! WP: "(However, no edible honey has been found in Egyptian tombs; all such cases have been proven to be other substances or only chemical traces.[29])" [29] is https://gwern.net/doc/history/1975-leek.pdf - this does not look like a peer reviewed paper. They do look to be reputable and they refute some rubbish documented ca…

> I'm going to call out the WP article as being factually wanting on that point. No, it's not. What is factually wanting is any case of an actual tomb honey. When I looked into it, every single supposed tomb honey, not already debunked by Leek, deadends in a useless citation which is 'someone somewhere once found tomb honey trust me bro'. Clearly made-up. They don't exist. The burden of proof is on anyone who still b…

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Re: The chemical secrets that help keep honey fresh for so long

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> I'm going to call out the WP article as being factually wanting on that point. No, it's not. What is factually wanting is any case of an actual tomb honey. When I looked into it, every single supposed tomb honey, not already debunked by Leek, deadends in a useless citation which is 'someone somewhere once found tomb honey trust me bro'. Clearly made-up. They don't exist. The burden of proof is on anyone who still b…

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