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US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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I see 3 possibilities: They're cutting it off to limit bad news about climate change, for political reasons. Or they're trying to set up some private company to sell the same data. Or (tinfoil hat on) they're going to do something the raw microwave data might expose and so they're trying to keep the microwave data secret.

There's no mystery, this is the execution of Project 2025. https://envirodatagov.org/project-2025-annotation/

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Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Heaven forbid the rest of the world pays their own share of the bill. We’re not a charity. We treat our own people like shit, don’t expect to be treated better.

The lack of self-awareness here is incredible. Every Visa, Mastercard and PayPal transaction in my country results in us paying tax to the US. You think we couldn't develop our own card schemes? US tech business gets tax free entry into our market. It uses our roads, our communications, our police and court system. All of this is to the detriment of our local business. A huge amount of our defence spending goes direc…

Yes all these things you don’t do yourselves because you can do it better, cheaper and faster. Listen to yourself.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Heaven forbid the rest of the world pays their own share of the bill. We’re not a charity. We treat our own people like shit, don’t expect to be treated better.

Much of the world is already VERY accustomed to the US treating it like shit

Feel free to spend a trillion dollars on your own DoD annually. Then you don’t need the US anymore. I’d be happy if we stopped policing the world as much as anyone else. And we could maybe spend our taxes on something more productive and useful to the people.

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It’s no longer a reliable place to live, either.

I've seen this argument a lot, but I don't see people clamoring to leave. I don't think anyone is taking makeshift boats to Cuba from the US, for example. If you live in the US, are you actively looking to leave?

No, because it’s not realistic for me - I’m not going to leave my siblings behind, nor my inlaws. If this was happening when I was single? I’d have been out before Trump took office the first time.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Much of the world is already VERY accustomed to the US treating it like shit

Feel free to spend a trillion dollars on your own DoD annually. Then you don’t need the US anymore. I’d be happy if we stopped policing the world as much as anyone else. And we could maybe spend our taxes on something more productive and useful to the people.

Just because the US spends so much on defence is not evidence that level of spending is required

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

#176

Good God. The Fall of civilizations episode for the United States will be galactically stupid. The Sumerians: climate change and soil degradation. The Assyrians: external tribes organizing against their brutality. The US: fox news, AM radio, and conspiracy theory uncle Facebook memes.

Strikingly succinct.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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The lack of self-awareness here is incredible. Every Visa, Mastercard and PayPal transaction in my country results in us paying tax to the US. You think we couldn't develop our own card schemes? US tech business gets tax free entry into our market. It uses our roads, our communications, our police and court system. All of this is to the detriment of our local business. A huge amount of our defence spending goes direc…

Yes all these things you don’t do yourselves because you can do it better, cheaper and faster. Listen to yourself.

You may recall that Europe has its own card schemes, but the UK doesn't join them, because of the 'special relationship'.

The UK was forced by the US to abandon TSR2, the best jet in the world, to get a cash bailout from the US, that it needed after all of the years fighting WW2 on its own...it spent all of its money buying material...from the USA. The UK invented lots of key military equipment, Radar, proximity fuses, nuclear bombs, jet engines, and gave them all to the US. It is about time the US paid us back, you leeches

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Yes all these things you don’t do yourselves because you can do it better, cheaper and faster. Listen to yourself.

You may recall that Europe has its own card schemes, but the UK doesn't join them, because of the 'special relationship'. The UK was forced by the US to abandon TSR2, the best jet in the world, to get a cash bailout from the US, that it needed after all of the years fighting WW2 on its own...it spent all of its money buying material...from the USA. The UK invented lots of key military equipment, Radar, proximity fuse…

I don't recall Europe having its own global card schemes.

The TSR-2 was abandoned due to cost overruns. The F-111 would have been cheaper...but even that was abandoned and eventually the Tornado came along...not a US aircraft.

The flow of military inventions flowed both ways during WW2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_technological_cooperati... Maybe if you hadn't had a coward as a leader in Chamberlain we wouldn't have had to bail you guys out (and lose ~250,000 Americans in Europe.)

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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This is part of Project 2025 to destroy the NOAA. [0] > Break up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. > "fully commercialize" the National Weather Service's forecasting operations.[1] [0] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=NOAA [1] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=Weather

One of arguments seems to be based on climate change denial "Together, these [six main offices of NOAS] form a colossal operation that has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry and, as such, is harmful to future U.S. prosperity. This industry’s mission emphasis on prediction and management seems designed around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplannable" "Scientific agencies like…

> climate change alarm industry

Ah yes, that very infamous industry of selling... alarm... for climate change. As opposed to Small Oil, which we all know is a very tiny industry that doesn't influence anything.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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> NOAA, which oversees the National Hurricane Center, says the loss of the Defense Department data will not lead to less-accurate hurricane forecasts this year. In a statement, NOAA communications director Kim Doster said, "NOAA's data sources are fully capable of providing a complete suite of cutting-edge data and models that ensure the gold-standard weather forecasting the American people deserve."

I wouldn’t really expect a Trump administration spokesperson to put out a statement critical of the Trump administration’s decision.

This is Congress 2015 decision. The Trump administration extended the deadline by another month.
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