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If the moon were only 1 pixel: A tediously accurate solar system model (2014)

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Re: If the moon were only 1 pixel: A tediously accurate solar system model (2014)

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I love how simple the HTML/CSS is. Absolute positioning with really large left: values. #saturn { position: absolute; left: 412397px; height: 34px; width: 65px; fill: #ffa043; }

Huge values could rise problems on IE (if someone keep using it and supporting it)

Re: If the moon were only 1 pixel: A tediously accurate solar system model (2014)

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Make sure you press the "c" button in the bottom right. Light is incredibly slow, and everything seems out of reach. I think we'll have a holodeck before we reach another star. And maybe that'll be enough.

It only seems incredibly slow in this model because it doesn't take special relativity into account. If it did, then as you approached the speed of light the Lorentz contraction would make wherever you are heading appear less far away. You can in theory get anywhere in the universe in an arbitrarily short amount of proper time your own reference frame. Of course, you might not survive the G-forces, but that's another matter.

Re: If the moon were only 1 pixel: A tediously accurate solar system model (2014)

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> Light is incredibly slow, and everything seems out of reach. Yes, agreed. I find it a little depressing. An unimaginably huge universe, tantalisingly there, but completely out of reach.

Not out of reach if you get very close to light speed. Time would advance very slowly for you, so counterintuitively it is possible to travel 5000ly in your life time. Although for everyone else at least 5000 years will pass, so better say goodbye to family and friend. Hm, not sure if that is really less depressing... Also light isn't slow. A photon instantly travels to the end of time and yet it still takes a few mi…

> "A photon instantly travels to the end of time"

Please explain this. TIA

Re: If the moon were only 1 pixel: A tediously accurate solar system model (2014)

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Unrelated, but the Elon dream of getting a human colony on Mars seems beyond imagination. Ignoring safety of such a long travel, the radiation issue of Mar's surface, and the massive infrastructure to have a self-sustainable biosphere (also somehow protected from radiation) to recycle enough oxygen, we still have to deal with the immense number of failures that could happen with no way to send help. Like, building a…

At least theoretically it should be doable. But I think it will be similar to the moon landings. My prediction: People are going to lose interest in the project very quickly. It will be prohibitively expensive to maintain and there is simply nothing to do. You couldn’t even really have a remote programming job there. A light round trip takes between 6 and 44 minutes, completely unsustainable.

Re: If the moon were only 1 pixel: A tediously accurate solar system model (2014)

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post #99

Unrelated, but the Elon dream of getting a human colony on Mars seems beyond imagination. Ignoring safety of such a long travel, the radiation issue of Mar's surface, and the massive infrastructure to have a self-sustainable biosphere (also somehow protected from radiation) to recycle enough oxygen, we still have to deal with the immense number of failures that could happen with no way to send help. Like, building a…

At least theoretically it should be doable. But I think it will be similar to the moon landings. My prediction: People are going to lose interest in the project very quickly. It will be prohibitively expensive to maintain and there is simply nothing to do. You couldn’t even really have a remote programming job there. A light round trip takes between 6 and 44 minutes, completely unsustainable.

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Re: If the moon were only 1 pixel: A tediously accurate solar system model (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not out of reach if you get very close to light speed. Time would advance very slowly for you, so counterintuitively it is possible to travel 5000ly in your life time. Although for everyone else at least 5000 years will pass, so better say goodbye to family and friend. Hm, not sure if that is really less depressing... Also light isn't slow. A photon instantly travels to the end of time and yet it still takes a few mi…

> "A photon instantly travels to the end of time" Please explain this. TIA

First set gamma as being 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), with "c" being the speed of light. The factor for time dilation and distance contraction in special relativity is gamma and 1/gamma respectively.

That means that when you get to speeds equal to c, your time runs infinitely slower and the distances are infinitely shorter. So if your clock is infinitely slower, so every travel at "c" speeds means that no time passes for you. And if your distances are infinitely shorter, all travels at "c" speeds cover any distance as immediate. So you could reach every point of the universe as if it was immediately closer and in no time at all.

So in the frame of reference of the photon, the moment it is created it has already reached its destination, be it wherever it is on the universe.

Of course we can never reach "c" as beings with mass, but we can get closer to that. So for example if you get to 99.99999999999999% of the speed of light, you could travel a distance of 54,794,520 ly and only one year would pass to you, while 54,794,520 years would pass on earth.

Re: If the moon were only 1 pixel: A tediously accurate solar system model (2014)

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post #99

Unrelated, but the Elon dream of getting a human colony on Mars seems beyond imagination. Ignoring safety of such a long travel, the radiation issue of Mar's surface, and the massive infrastructure to have a self-sustainable biosphere (also somehow protected from radiation) to recycle enough oxygen, we still have to deal with the immense number of failures that could happen with no way to send help. Like, building a…

> Like, building a fully self-sustainable underwater city or moon base would be far more in reach. It feels that SpaceX should start with prototyping these safer alternatively before overreaching to something 100x more challenging and dangerous. I've been beating this drum for years. Elon is 100% focused on building the rocket that can get to Mars and neglecting absolutely everything else about the project. Where is…

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