Microsoft Office migration from Source Depot to Git

Post by BenjiWiebe » Thu, Jun 12, 2025, 2:31 PM UTC

kmoser wrote: post #153

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Alternatively, communications fatigue. How many emails does the average employee get with nonsense that doesn't apply to them? Oh cool, we have a new VP. Oh cool, that department had a charity drive. Oh cool, system I've never heard of is getting replaced by a new one, favourite of this guy I've never heard of. Add in the various spam (be it attacks or just random vendors trying to sell something). At some point, peo…

Everybody gets important emails, and it's literally part of their job to filter the wheat from the chaff. One of my benchmarks for someone's competency is their ability to manage information. With a combination of email filters and mental discipline, even the most busy inbox can be manageable. But this is an acquired skill, akin to not getting lost in social media, and some people are far better at it than others.

Post by mattl » Thu, Jun 12, 2025, 2:39 PM UTC

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I worked with someone who was surprised the company didn’t use Bitbucket and Discord. They were unhappy about both.

Discord I get, at least from a community or network effect, but Bitbucket? I can’t figure out why anyone but a CTO looking to save a buck would prefer Bitbucket.

Post by Marsymars » Thu, Jun 12, 2025, 2:43 PM UTC

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My firm still uses perforce and I can't say anyone likes it at this point. You can almost see the light leaves the eyes of new hires when you tell them we don't use git like the rest of the world.

I cannot believe that new hires would be upset by the choice of version control software. They joined a new company after so many hoops and it's on them for having an open mind towards processes and tools in the new company.

Post by connicpu » Thu, Jun 12, 2025, 2:44 PM UTC

evilduck wrote: post #161

mattl wrote: post #159

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I worked with someone who was surprised the company didn’t use Bitbucket and Discord. They were unhappy about both.

Discord I get, at least from a community or network effect, but Bitbucket? I can’t figure out why anyone but a CTO looking to save a buck would prefer Bitbucket.

Post by electroly » Thu, Jun 12, 2025, 2:48 PM UTC

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Yes, I used VSS as a solo developer in the 90s. It was a revelation at the time. I met other VCS systems at grad school (RCS, CVS). I started a job at MSFT in 2004 and I recall someone explaining that VSS was unsafe and prone to corruption. No idea if that was true, or just lore, but it wasn't an option for work anyway.

I used VSS for a few years back in the late 90's and early 2000's. It was better than nothing - barely - but it was very slow, very network intensive (think MS Access rather than SQL), it had very poor merge primitives (when you checked out a file, nobody else could change it), and yes, it was exceedingly prone to corruption. A couple times we just had to throw away history and start over.