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Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by nashashmi »

DocTomoe wrote: post #98
nashashmi wrote: post #78

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It does stop kids from being openly advertised drugs and makes it difficult for kids to get drugs. That is the whole point of legislation, not to eliminate but mitigate.

I can assure you the average teenager in a western country has absolutely zero issues getting their weed. In fact, the older you get, the harder it becomes (as your social circle tends to shrink once you have a job).

I was a teen in the west. And I knew kids who had a hard time getting weed. Some got ripped off with stuff that was fake.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by nashashmi »

jajko wrote: post #127
nashashmi wrote: post #78

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It does stop kids from being openly advertised drugs and makes it difficult for kids to get drugs. That is the whole point of legislation, not to eliminate but mitigate.

LOL. You should walk around some french cities a bit. Getting drugs for locals is certainly not a problem, despite harsh punishments like its 80s.

Ok. Now suppose for a minute you go to a city place where you know absolutely no one. Whom do you ask for drug advice now?

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by quesera »

AngryData wrote: post #164
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #70

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Does that explain why most societies don't permit children to drive cars? Perhaps that's not based on development, but just being too short? I kid, but clearly we don't let children drive, vote, drink alcohol, have sex etc. because of general observations about their limits, including self-control.

Technically in the US farmer's kids can drive at 12 without a license if they are on "farm business" including hauling massive loads, both with tractors and regular cars and trucks. If they wanted they could put an unsecured goat in the back seat of an unlicensed car and drive to town with it.

This varies by state.

Somewhat relatedly, there are US states where the age of consent (for sex with an older partner) is 13 years old, and the age of consent for marriage is 16.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by trilbyglens »

ryeats wrote: post #115
callamdelaney wrote: post #66

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This is the only true solution. Parents need to take responsibility for what their kids are doing online, what they’re viewing and who they’re talking to. This generation of parents should be prepared for that but apparently not.

I tried to block YouTube when my kids were remote learning during the pandemic, it took several attempts and they were in grade school. They even got around Apple's considerable content controls I had to set up a DNS proxy.

Best way is to block at the router.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by sltkr »

pests wrote: post #162
sltkr wrote: post #79

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First, intentionally leaking this type of data is extremely illegal under Europe's strict privacy laws. So we are limited to unintentional breaches of privacy which can be guarded against with auditing requirements. Second, you have to look at the potential damage such a leak would have on the affected porn watchers. Is it really that damaging to your reputation if someone could prove that you visited Pornhub in the…

> visitors in France don't bother with any of that, proving that they aren't actually concerned about being blackmailed or outed as porn consumers by their ISP. I don’t think that follows. Tons of people don’t have the technical means or ability to use those countermeasures. Some don’t even know they are being tracked. I don’t think that implies they’re fine with being blackmailed.

True, and I addressed that a bit in my other comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44212409

The short version is that I think people who don't realize their ISP can see which sites they visit aren't any worse off by their ISP signing age-verification tokens. Those tokens give much less information about the content they consume than the metadata the ISP already has access too.

I would guess at least a double-digit percentage of internet users are in the clueless category that you describe, and in practice there isn't a huge problem of these dummies being outed/blackmailed by their ISPs. So I don't think it's realistic to expect that if ISPs were in the business of providing age guarantees they would be outing/blackmailing their customers, especially since their behavior of those ISPs would be scrutinized by more knowledgeable people, and any ISP not taking customer privacy seriously would be subject to both public criticism and legal action.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by mdp2021 »

yhavr wrote: post #157
mdp2021 wrote: post #125

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> fuck up ones reward system I am personally not aware of those (products that would damage one's reward system), can you name some?

besides porn, things like facebook, tiktok, instagram, reddit... generalising, it's everything that acts as a button "gib me more novelty" that one can press as much and as frequently as they want. surely, not everybody is hooked by these things, and it's definitely possible to use them without harm, but sometimes it requires training and (self-)awareness.

But every source of pleasure could create addiction, so it is not valid to point to a specific one, and the requirement of self control and gratification delay remains generally fundamental.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by mdp2021 »

sitzkrieg wrote: post #159
mdp2021 wrote: post #102

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> is poisonous With all due, some may want to advise you to check into that. It could be that it does strange things because of the way you are wired. Please note (about similar corners) what I have already written in the page, "for some it brings a satisfaction and this is an outlet valve that reduces adverse social effects; for some it is a kindler and it will increase adverse social effects". To some it will be th…

nah, alcohol is a poison. this is a fact the effects are dose based which teens are not known to respect :)

Following what you are writing, you misunderstood my post, Sitzkrieg.

I was not writing about alchool... I said that some controversial imagery may be neutral or even enriching to some - while alchool remains a poison (it physically is).

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by mdp2021 »

Ancapistani wrote: post #158
mdp2021 wrote: post #132

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> You’re not convincing your kids that you are right. You are reminding them of the consequences if they disagree Very inadvisable. Raise them in view to being adults.

I absolutely do this, but there are times when "because I said so" is the actual answer. As an adult, there are plenty of situations where you are subject to the authority of others. Learning to deal with disagreement with that is also part of being an adult.

Interesting, but your lapsus may be worth noting:

if you show your good reasons then they will find themselves under «the authority of others»,

whereas if you don't they will find themselves «subject to» the power of others.

Opportunity and effects may vary.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by Dylan16807 »

quesera wrote: post #174
AngryData wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically in the US farmer's kids can drive at 12 without a license if they are on "farm business" including hauling massive loads, both with tractors and regular cars and trucks. If they wanted they could put an unsecured goat in the back seat of an unlicensed car and drive to town with it.

This varies by state. Somewhat relatedly, there are US states where the age of consent (for sex with an older partner) is 13 years old, and the age of consent for marriage is 16.

Define "sex with an older partner". I'm pretty sure that for sex with someone of arbitrary older age, the age of consent is 16-18 in every state. If you're counting limited age difference then you might be right but that phrasing is misleading
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