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Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Post by harimau777 »

Volundr wrote: post #66
zelphirkalt wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well,not my country, but I think it is quite a silly and too general rule: What if 10 neighbors collude and start flying drones over my garden and house, only a few meters above ground or my roof, 24/7? What if one of their drones crashes without my doing and hurts _me_? So the actual rules need to be more nuanced than this, to prevent people doing crazy shit with their tech gadgets hurting others. They cannot be giv…

> What if 10 neighbors collude and start flying drones over my garden and house, only a few meters above ground or my roof, 24/7? What if one of their drones crashes without my doing and hurts _me_? Are you under the impression that either of these things is legal, and that gunplay is your only recourse?

What's the other recourse? Unless you are rich, cops don't care.

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Post by ty6853 »

mulmen wrote: post #130
anonymars wrote: post #99

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I imagine they're thinking of the Bundy standoff (which was federal BLM land but not a national park) To wit: > The Bundy standoff’s most significant legacy may be the precedent it established: that armed resistance against federal authorities could succeed without serious legal consequences for participants. This outcome has had a profound impact on antigovernment extremist movements, creating what experts describe…

Interesting. Malheur was led by the same Amon Bundy.

Amon Bundy was tried on many charges and his case was closed with prejudice.

The media and government tried and tried to paint him as a criminal but ultimately all the kings horses, men, and prosecutors weren't able to persuade a jury.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Post by BWStearns »

Enginerrrd wrote: post #43
Pet_Ant wrote: post #30

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Bullets fall down and can be deadly, so anyone doing so should at least be prosecuted for reckless endangerment if not assault with a deadly weapon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire

Most people seriously looking to shoot down a drone would be using a shotgun and bird shot, so that's essentially a non-issue.

https://www.reddit.com/r/drones/comments/1fvqiqz/angry_flori...

At least one Florida man is out there plinking Walmart drones at 400 feet with a 9mm. Saw another who took one down from a boat also with a pistol (probably 9mm also), but can't find the video now.

The Venn diagram of "shoots at drones" and "concerned with other people's safety" is two separate circles.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Post by ty6853 »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #165
gigel82 wrote: post #119

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I think more legal clarifications are needed here. If someone comes into your property to mount a trail cam or spy device, I believe you're allowed to remove it (even in a destructive manner). Not sure why the FAA insists a spy device that happens to hover a couple feet above is entitled to more protections...

Because projectiles don't stop at any particular distance and can reach vehicles with humans which are flying over other humans, all of which were innocent of any spying, and most people are complete shit at judging size and distance when looking at objects in the air. (lots of great examples of this with the mystery drones in nj a while back) I would like to shoot them down too but then I became 12 and a half years…

>I have no idea how bird hunting is handled but I bet it simply fails a logic test and shouldn't be allowed for the exact same reasons.

Bird hunting is handled with #8+ bird shot, which at 45+ degree angle it is essentially at terminal velocity by the time it comes down, considering they are basically BBs it is mildly unsafe coming down (as in you'd have to be incredibly unlucky) anywhere within maybe a couple hundred yards at worst and essentially completely safe beyond that.

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Post by anitil »

Balgair wrote: post #80

Aside: It's going to be a great time when the crows, raccoons, and other semi-intelligent wildlife discover that these drones have food in them at seemingly random reward schedules. Sure, you can give the drones little tasers to keep the animals away, depending on your locality. But knowing what I know about bears and crows, almost nothing is going to stop them. Especially when some influencer jerk tries tempting a b…

A friend of mine suggested that being able to stop eagles attacking his drones used for land surveying would be worth a lot of money, they often come back with scratches and damage. I'm not sure if he's lost any drones (yet).

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Post by sneak »

SoftTalker wrote: post #40
catigula wrote: post #27

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I highly doubt people are shooting at drones. Shooting at any aircraft is incredibly illegal & dangerous. I'd assume people have better self-preservation instincts than that.

People shoot at cars (road rage) which is way worse. I don't think such people have self-preservation instincts, or at least they aren't developed against threats such as "this might lead to an investigation and possible criminal charges some time in the future"

People very very rarely (almost never) shoot at cars due to road rage.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Post by metaphor »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #59
zelphirkalt wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well,not my country, but I think it is quite a silly and too general rule: What if 10 neighbors collude and start flying drones over my garden and house, only a few meters above ground or my roof, 24/7? What if one of their drones crashes without my doing and hurts _me_? So the actual rules need to be more nuanced than this, to prevent people doing crazy shit with their tech gadgets hurting others. They cannot be giv…

> What if 10 neighbors collude and start flying drones over my garden and house, only a few meters above ground or my roof, 24/7? What if your neighbours climb on your roof and start banging on your windows at night?

> What if your neighbours climb on your roof and start banging on your windows at night?

Worth noting that in the US, castle law[1] is ardently defended and not something to be tested by FAFO.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Post by arresin »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #154
bigiain wrote: post #138

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Crows are smart, and seem to for relationship with "friendly" humans, and are "trainable". I wonder how long it'd take to befriend a few crows, and teach them there's valuable stuff in delivery drones?

Unfortunately it runs afoul of the same laws against training apes to steal[1] or pickpocket[2]. 1. Dunston Checks In (1996) 2. Monkey Trouble (1994)

I need to review those references.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Post by [deleted] »

Balgair wrote: post #80

Aside: It's going to be a great time when the crows, raccoons, and other semi-intelligent wildlife discover that these drones have food in them at seemingly random reward schedules. Sure, you can give the drones little tasers to keep the animals away, depending on your locality. But knowing what I know about bears and crows, almost nothing is going to stop them. Especially when some influencer jerk tries tempting a b…

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