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There is a new factor in the equation: Rising anti-american sentiments. This ties in with point 5 especially. Forcing Spanish websites off Cloudflare could seem like an additional benefit.
I've heard enough of this anti-american talk, and it sure smells like propaganda. The huge majority of europeans have nothing against the american people. Please, do not propagate these claims.
I was unaware of this controversy so in brief: 1. La Liga (Spanish Football) finds pirates streaming their games objectionable 2. They notice that many of these streamers use Cloudflare for something, presumably CDN and load balancing. 3. They appear in court in Spain and get an ex-parte TRO blocking all Cloudflare IPs. (Ex parte TRO: restraining order granted without Cloudflare being summoned to court) 4. Based on t…
> 2. They notice that many of these streamers use Cloudflare for something, presumably CDN and load balancing. And DDoS protection. Sports broadcast piracy has a history of serious organized crime involvement, and then some, such as https://www.theregister.com/2002/03/13/murdoch_company_crack... where the allegation was NDS did the hacking and leaked the keys of the rival tech to various mob groups for exploitation.
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NFL would absolutely do the same in the US if it were against a foreign ISP or network operator.
What’s the domestic piracy rate for NFL games? They split the rights up in much more imaginative ways, like local channels can broadcast sold out local games and then the nfl itself or an rsn or major network can broadcast the remote half. I would guess that a lot of local games are over the air but if you follow a team somewhere else you might need a fairly inexpensive subscription
I live in Spain, while I find the whole "life-threatening" narrative a tad overblown: I agree these obnoxious blocks are unacceptable. Incredible how much power LaLiga is capable of wielding.
sounds like centralising most of the the internet behind a single easy target (Cloudflare) is a bad idea
Yeah. I think this is the elephant in the room. I keep stumbling upon "We need to verify you are a human" by Cloudflare in many sites around the web. Crazy.
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Sadly including on my site that kept getting overwhelmed by bots this year. I didn’t know what else to do.
Have you tried anubis? https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis
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Why? There's no rationale behind that.
When a thing or technology becomes so large and so relied upon that removal of that thing causes real physical harm to unrelated citizens or indeed the government itself, you should think about the risk and benefits of allowing that thing to be controlled entirely by a private entity with no oversight or responsibilities.
The root issue here is that La Liga is able to get a court to shut down a web host. It's shouldn't be anyone's problem but La Liga's that people pirate their stream, but a court let them make it everyone's problem. And there are any number of dumb things the court could have let them do, and turning CF into a utility company that can get shut down by the court doesn't solve the issue.
Finally, the main/original reason CF is useful is because the internet was created naively with no protections against bad actors. Weakening CF just empowers bad actors like LaLiga that much more at the expense of the rest of us. Being able to cloak my origin behind CF so that LaLiga or any other overpowered government or private entity doesn't know who I am is a feature. LaLiga having no option but to throw a tantrum that takes down half the internet is also a feature, and not one we should quickly hand away just because, idk, we can imagine some utopian vision where CF is unnecessary.
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Preregister domain names, distribute then via chat apps like signal or whatsapp or telegram.
Whatsapp has mechanisms to prevent this kind of thing by blocking the messages from being sent, but I guess I'm confused about how this works financially. Sports streaming (especially something like La Liga) is the textbook example of a mass market product. The vast majority of the audience isn't technically sophisticated, and live streaming infrastructure is expensive. Pirate sites need a reasonably large audience t…
Note that the ads were for things like VPN providers and pirate IPTV feed services, which people are willing to pay for.
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Have you tried anubis? https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis
Anubis is affective against certain kinds of bots and abuse, but wouldn't be that affective against large scale DDoS attacks. And it does have a negative impact on usability, as users have to wait for the browser to do the proof of work, which may or may not be worse than cloudflare's captchas.
Cloudflare's captchas are only convenient for a subset of users, I'll bet there'd be decent money in one of the competing CDNs (Fastly maybe?) including an Anubis-like captcha.