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Re: Just use HTML

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Post by tim333 » Tue, May 13, 2025, 1:57 PM UTC

wingerlang wrote: post #160

mbgerring wrote: post #55

Look — I’m old enough to remember when the “web standards movement” was controversial. I had to argue with my boss about using CSS vs tables. And I remember when you did need javascript to do a lot of things that HTML now does natively. JS frameworks had to exist to push the state of the art, because the state of the art got stuck. The standards bodies and browser vendors got their shit together, and now you can do t…

Clearly an AI generated comment, should this be banned?

mbgerring seems real. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mgerring/

Says he majored in journalism which maybe explains a more literate style that engineers take to be llm?

Re: Just use HTML

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 13, 2025, 2:02 PM UTC

drannex wrote: post #52

this is the best version of any of these I've seen over the years. and if anyones lame fucking corpo filter guard catches this, then let them catch these archived hands: https://web.archive.org/web/20250512141449/https://justfucki...

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Re: Just use HTML

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Post by wingerlang » Tue, May 13, 2025, 2:06 PM UTC

tim333 wrote: post #171

wingerlang wrote: post #160

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Clearly an AI generated comment, should this be banned?

mbgerring seems real. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mgerring/ Says he majored in journalism which maybe explains a more literate style that engineers take to be llm?

I’m sure it’s possible, ChatGPT is trained on people after all.

Re: Just use HTML

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Post by tim333 » Tue, May 13, 2025, 2:08 PM UTC

Retr0id wrote: post #17

What percentage of this was written by an LLM? (Asking out of genuine curiosity, parts of it are triggering my LLM-detector while others feel human)

Dunno. This seems to be the author https://x.com/kyrylosilin/status/1921935471292141974

Re: Just use HTML

#175

Post by martibravo » Tue, May 13, 2025, 2:17 PM UTC

bradly wrote: post #49

reconnecting wrote: post #19

We made tirreno website [1] with only HTML 4.01 and 1 transparent pixel, no CSS or JS. Works well on any device. Easy to update. Highly recommended. [1] https://www.tirreno.com/

Nice! I'm working on a private Recipe bookmarking site that currently has no JavaScript and minimal CSS. https://github.com/bradly/recipin

Nice commit emojis

Re: Just use HTML

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Post by noisem4ker » Tue, May 13, 2025, 2:24 PM UTC

Gualdrapo wrote: post #126

noisem4ker wrote: post #97

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This is a failure or regression of mobile browsers. We once had automatic line wrapping (Opera Mobile did it best back in its Presto engine days) which provided readable size paragraphs and avoided the need for horizontal scrolling. The onus of adapting the presentation to the medium shifted to the websites, while browsers lost agency.

I'd like to see how that worked. In my mind I'd guess such a feature could have been great for one column layouts, like in this website, but I can't imagine how it would be for the then-traditional layouts of a left sidebar navigation column and a right area for content.

Page starts zoomed out. Each element is limited in width. Double tapping on an element (e.g. a paragraph) zooms in on said element, making it full width. Further zooming in causes the text to reflow to the viewport width. It's difficult to describe, but it used to work fine.

Re: Just use HTML

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Post by rad_gruchalski » Tue, May 13, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

ninetyninenine wrote: post #167

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #156

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Think whatever you want to think.

It’s not about what I want. It’s about what’s fact or fiction in the face of possible lies. I think you’re lying because you’re so offended. It hit a nerve. Whatever made your career front end react certainly seems like a big part of it.

You’re making stuff up. You should try your luck as a non sci-fi writer. Thanks for your psychoanalysis. Don’t think too much. It doesn’t seem to work anyway…

You have your answers at the fingertips and yet you choose to make shit up. Like I thought, you’re an ignorant person who has a desire to judge others. You do live in a bubble, indeed.

Re: Just use HTML

#178

Post by owebmaster » Tue, May 13, 2025, 5:59 PM UTC

wingerlang wrote: post #173

tim333 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mbgerring seems real. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mgerring/ Says he majored in journalism which maybe explains a more literate style that engineers take to be llm?

I’m sure it’s possible, ChatGPT is trained on people after all.

Look - the content is good and some of us are not native English speakers. People should edit their chatgpt correction but we should stop calling everything AI generated without real proof. Anyway, if the comment is meaningful and adds to the discussion, why should I care if it was AI generated?

Re: Just use HTML

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Post by namegulf » Tue, May 13, 2025, 6:45 PM UTC

That's a good reset.

With Web UI's bloated with frameworks, large CSS, crazy javascript, etc...

Go back to basics the way HTML is intended, simple and fast!

Re: Just use HTML

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 13, 2025, 6:59 PM UTC

Tade0 wrote: post #68

InMice wrote: post #9

You don't need to swear at me about it, thanks.

I think this style of writing tries to emulate what passed as "cool" in the early 2010s or so. Matthew Inman of "The Oatmeal" is to me a leading representative of it.

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