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On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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As a teenager, I used to regularly say "I'd rather look at life for real than through a view-finder of a camera" 30 years later I now know how wrong I was. I regret not taking photos of everything I could. So many lost memories.

I'm trying to catch up with that now, but I also don't want to introduce a smartphone into every experience and destroy the moment I actually wanted to capture.

After searching alot for a very compact camera I can just pull out, blindly take pictures and stow away for later review, I found the long-discontinued DxO-One being a gem. A really nice blend of good camera-hardware and ultra-compact design, at a (now) crazy-low price.

(It was initially sold at ~700 USD, but flopped and then later discontinued, but it can now still be purchased at ~110 USD as new, and that's hard to beat for a large-sensor (1" sensor) camera with a great lens (f/1.8 with mechanical iris).

I started collecting data about it, because it also has quite some potential to be hacked and customized [0]

[0]: https://github.com/rickdeck/DxO-One/wiki

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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When you get older, you realize how memories fade, how they disappear, and that’s when you wish you had taken more pictures. I am not talking about young folks shooting photos for the sake of getting likes. I am talking about precious moments, a picture here, a picture there. They will help trigger lost memories. For what is our identity if not a string of recollections we have?

Pictures are one way, there are other ways too like writing a journal. Camera after all is a recent invention.

Few people have the time to sit and write a journal each day. I tried and it became a burden, a dread before bed time. Sleep won out.

Journals can also be electively subjective. Yes, a photo can be framed or posed, but it's harder to edit awkward truths out of a photo rather than omitting them from a journal.

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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post #149

As a teenager, I used to regularly say "I'd rather look at life for real than through a view-finder of a camera" 30 years later I now know how wrong I was. I regret not taking photos of everything I could. So many lost memories.

You can do both though. It's silly to go to a music concert and constantly try to film something in the chaos, instead of enjoying it. But that shouldn't stop you from taking a few pictures of you and your friends at the concert.

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There must be a balance. Recently I met some people that were constantly filming and taking pictures of everything. It was ridiculous IMO, for the same reasons OP mentions. This is not new. For me, it began with the rise of the smartphone. So I made it a point not to waste my time photographing things. 10 years later, I regret having essentially no pictures of anything. In particular, no "good" or "frameable" picture…

Similar for me, I started looking for a small compact camera I can pull out, roughly aim at a scene and take plenty of pictures for later, with minimal disruption of the moment (I especially don't want to introduce a Smartphone to everything, I want people to continue in that moment without the impulse to pose for a picture).

After searching alot, I found the long-discontinued DxO-One being a gem. A really nice blend of good camera-hardware and ultra-compact design, at a (now) crazy-low price. It almost has a analogue-camera feel to it, because you don't get to review the picture instantly but have to connect it to a phone or PC first.

It's a hardware designed for a ~700 USD pricetag. It flopped but it can still be purchased at ~110 USD as old stock, and that's hard to beat for a large-sensor (1" size) camera with a great lens (f/1.8 with mechanical iris).

It has a tiny display for rough configuration, linux OS, I started collecting data about it, because it also has quite some potential to be hacked and customized [0]

[0]: https://github.com/rickdeck/DxO-One/wiki

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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Like any tech nerds, I went through "camera phase" and carried canon 350d, 50d then 6d everywhere i go with my 50mm and 135mm ... but they were indeed bulky, it was a hassle to get people to pose for photos while i run 100m back so my 135mm can capture them perfectly... i couldn't enjoy the moment, i was that "camera friend" that would fly around everyone like fly, capturing them doing things and feeling proud that i…

> it was a hassle to get people to pose for photos

This so much. I bought a better camera for a big party my parents where organizing, and it was such a terrible experience trying to get people into a photo. Even if they welcomed the photo, they just couldn't stop moving or talking while posing for it.

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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There must be a balance. Recently I met some people that were constantly filming and taking pictures of everything. It was ridiculous IMO, for the same reasons OP mentions. This is not new. For me, it began with the rise of the smartphone. So I made it a point not to waste my time photographing things. 10 years later, I regret having essentially no pictures of anything. In particular, no "good" or "frameable" picture…

I use a film camera, which removes the possibility of infinite shots. It works for me! And since I must print the pictures, I make duplicates and share with friends and family. You can give it a try: there are very easy cameras!

I was looking for a similar experience, where I take a picture only to immediately go back into the moment, without disrupting anything.

All those compact cameras were still too large for that purpose, because as the saying goes: "The best camera is the one you always have on you"

After some searching I found an AWESOME gem of a little camera: The DxO One, a camera from back in 2016 from DxO, a company actually specialized in benchmarking camera-quality.

The device was built to be sold at ~700 USD, but flopped and can still be purchased as old-stock for ~110 USD now.

Size is fantastic, Pictures are great, I can only recommend it if someone just wants to capture a moment like it is without people getting pulled out of it.

The device is also somewhat hackable [0], as it's based on the Ambarella platform (RTOS and Linux).

I started collecting infos about it to preserve it [1], there's still alot of potential in this little gem.

[0]: https://github.com/rickdeck/DxO-One/wiki/1.-Hardware

[1]: https://github.com/rickdeck/DxO-One/wiki

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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As with anything in life, there is a balance.

I have rekindled my love for the small digital pocket cameras. I love using it when observing every day events unfolding. I try not to let the camera get in the way of my own interactions, like a good conversation when walking with friends or loved ones.

The small 14 year old Samsung W2000 I use is slim enough to easily slide into any pocket, and has a 5x optical zoom that allows me to take really nice pictures and videos from a comfortable distance, allowing life to unfold without the awareness of the presence of a camera.

The pocket camera has just enough megapixels (10) and supports RAW images and 1080p videos. It allows me to leave my smartphone at home, avoiding any distractions when out and about. If I need to be available I bring my old Nokia as well.

I would argue to rather leave your smartphone at home, not your camera :)

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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I wouldn't even call myself an amateur photographer, I've never really had the obsessive "Move out of the way!" or "Hold that thread of conversation, let me take this shot" thoughts that the article describes. I don't take my photos that seriously. Still, I've gotten more into it as a light hobby in the last few years. The thing that really changed my perspective was using a friend's fancy Canon camera and nice lenses. (I later got my own somewhat fancy camera but apart from a small 50mm I still bum off his nice lenses.) What I noticed is that I sometimes can cultivate memories more if I have a goal to take some photos at some place in addition to just walking around. And of course going through them much later lets me remember and reminisce a lot more than otherwise. With nicer lenses taking photos kind of does have to be a goal, too, I largely agree with the article about not doing two things at once. Only with my little 50mm can I manage to stuff the camera into a hoodie pocket for opportunistic snaps, otherwise it's a whole backpack and shoulder strap affair. Especially with the nice high zoom lenses, but with those it's quite nice how in many instances I can see details well beyond what I can make out with my own eyes. Or with fast action, I'll capture things in a spray-and-pray burst that are fun to look back on and I didn't notice happen in front of me. (And not just because of focusing more on the photo taking than the scene -- have someone else take photos next to you instead and compare. I find the same phenomenon, moments that passed by too quickly for me to really register and remember on my own, but the camera caught them.)

The skill aspect of photography is also kind of fun, like if you have time or repetition to fiddle with shutter speed and aperture/depth of field and lighting compensation and so on, trying to get something you like yourself despite a challenging environment adds a bit of spice. (Idol concerts in Japan are a pretty fun challenge.) And honestly some places or moments aren't the most exciting on their own, without a camera I'd pass through more quickly, but with a camera I might slow down and take my time more. Like a little nature park with colorful trees is nice and relaxing on its own even if not particularly exciting, but if I decide to bring a camera along, I'm probably going to spend more time there and in the end enjoy things a little bit more. Then there are places like museums or zoos or aquariums, which are also all fine on their own and I've probably gone through more without taking photos than with. But if an animal is just chilling there, without a camera I might just look at it for a bit and move on, but with a camera I might instead spend more time. More time also ups the odds for something surprising to happen.

When it comes to cellphone camera shots, I continue to rarely take them. My first phone wasn't even until 2013, when I was ~halfway done with college.

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pictures are one way, there are other ways too like writing a journal. Camera after all is a recent invention.

Few people have the time to sit and write a journal each day. I tried and it became a burden, a dread before bed time. Sleep won out. Journals can also be electively subjective. Yes, a photo can be framed or posed, but it's harder to edit awkward truths out of a photo rather than omitting them from a journal.

People used to be always ready to scrible down things in the past I think, perhaps in the same way people are eager to take pictures now. Ofcourse one can't know before hand what's worth noting down and what's not, so I guess they would have just scribbled down everything, like when Plato wrote down what Socrates said.

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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I would really like to have a (better) version of the Google Clips [0]: A compact camera I can clip on to capture some moments without me having to think about it, with a little bit of AI to identify good scenes to capture.

Unfortunately the device was rather weak in picture quality and also flopped, so it seems nothing came after it.

For now I settled on a (also quite outdated) DxO-One for that purpose, a very compact no-display camera with great hardware, just for quickly capturing a moment without disrupting it. It's a great little gem with fantastic sensor and lens for its (now) ~110 USD pricetag (and also has some hacking-potential [1])

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Clips

[1] https://github.com/rickdeck/DxO-One/wiki

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