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We need more optimistic science fiction

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Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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On Twitter, Colin Fraser pointed out that Black Mirror was somewhat optimistic in that the horrible evil technology actually works as described[1]. Truly pessimistic science fiction would have - people worshipping an AI God which is demonstrably dumber than a dog - friendly humanoid robots which don't really understand how to walk down a flight of stairs - gravitational warp drives which are purely cosmetic and canno…

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Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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Hmm I could argue that Philip Dick's doors that demand payment to open are a good pessimistic prediction of the current entshittification.

I do think it's a genuinely interesting speculation—what happens if we paid real-life things not as a subscription, but based on usage, like an API. Not advocating for that at all, but it makes me want to read Ubik or write a short story about how it would affect life.

> if we paid real-life things not as a subscription, but based on usage

Are you thinking a flat rate or one based on local population density?

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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I think of a lot of my favorite space opera book series as optimistic. They're not depicting utopias or anything, but an imperfect world in the future that's nonetheless way beyond what we've achieved so far, and I reckon that's quite optimistic. This includes books by Peter F. Hamilton, Iain Banks, Alistair Raynolds.

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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Optimistic science fiction shows humanity applying unique ingenuity to solve tough problems. Our lived reality today is that we already know the technical solutions to many tough problems (hunger, homelessness, many diseases, overpopulation, climate change, war) but simply refuse to apply them. Of course people don’t believe optimistic sci-fi anymore. Star Trek the original series is usually taken as an example of op…

> Our lived reality today is that we already know the technical solutions to many tough problems (hunger, homelessness, many diseases, overpopulation, climate change, war) but simply refuse to apply them. Do we? We can do a lot for individuals, but even with cooperation, maybe can’t immediately give food and shelter to everyone, let alone fix climate change (war is fixable with cooperation, but unless I’m mistaken a…

We could, though. Absolutely. Literally feeding all the starving people in the world would cost a fraction of the world's surplus wealth, and a briefly disruptive but manageable readjustment of global logistics. The rest of it would be costly, but still totally doable at the cost of some inconvenience for the world's top 10%.

The problem isn't lack of solutions. It's lack of cooperation on every level from individuals to organizations to social groups to nations to transnational organizations.

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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> Our lived reality today is that we already know the technical solutions to many tough problems (hunger, homelessness, many diseases, overpopulation, climate change, war) but simply refuse to apply them. Do we? We can do a lot for individuals, but even with cooperation, maybe can’t immediately give food and shelter to everyone, let alone fix climate change (war is fixable with cooperation, but unless I’m mistaken a…

> We can do a lot for individuals, but even with cooperation, maybe can’t immediately give food and shelter to everyone It oddly isn't all that desirable. You don't want to depend entirely on the generosity of others. What you want is a fighting chance to take care of yourself. Helping there, even a little bit is both very effective and very easy.

It's not either/or. We can provide both jobs and a safety net.

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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My biggest issue with most scifi now-a-days is it ignores the acceleration of tech. Of course there's "Accelerando" and "Marooned in Realtime" but lots of scifi has "race/society X has been doing Y for 1000s of years" and now I immediately tune out because no society is going to remain static enough to do Y for thousands of years unless there is some premise in the book preventing anyone from inventing anything new.…

We don't know how technological acceleration will continue into the future. We may start hitting very hard physical/chemical/material limits that make further progress hard, resulting in progress becoming more logarithmic in growth.

Or, there's always the potential for war and decline. Advanced civilizations have risen before, then crumbled and lost a lot of their technology. The same could happen on a larger scale.

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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You never hear people talk about what slavery did for homelessness. One can be quite deranged, if a mean and a bed are provided and we beat you with a stick you are motivated to do the manual labor. It is also a sound method to overcome addiction. If pampered people living the good life cant quit smoking, stop drinking, cant quit Valium, cant stop eating. What would it be like to wake up under the bridge with an empt…

This is just slavery fanfiction. Mentally ill, uncooperative slaves would more likely have been killed to "send a message" to the others, and I expect functional addiction would be encouraged for manual labourers so long as it didn't harm productivity. I don't know what would lead you to draw assumptions like this (well, beyond the obvious).

I find it quite paradoxical how a person making great effort towards taking care of themself can some how turn out worse than care from someone who doesn't care about you.

We've made a lot of progress collectively and want to help everyone but end up doing a pretty crappy job.

I know some people who aren't doing very well mentally and do some substance abuse. Their job preserves what little sanity they have left. The periods between jobs are sheer terror, they almost die and might lose their home.

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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I grew up on a solid diet of 1980's distopian cyberpunk. Glory days for the inquisitive and rational analytical mind.

Star Trek ToS and TNG were more utopian, but I loved those ss well. The difference with today? It was about grand ideas and exploration, not pew pew and 1 sec crosscut fisticuffs by toddlers throwing a tantrum at a pindrop.

Re: We need more optimistic science fiction

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I look forward to a world where people no longer need to sacrifice their curiosity to earn bread, clothes and basic housing. UBI would be a good start, but with the resources at hand we should be able to do more. I look forward to a world where potentials are promptly discovered and put to be nurtured, instead of being wasted or randomly thrown to the society. Every one willing to share what they have learned or made…

We are not the best species to achieve that, as we have selfishness in our mind. We need a mind capable of collective effort for greater good and we are just not able to do that, we are shaped to protect what we have and try to get more at the expense of others. Being truly generous and selfless is a conscious act that requires quite a bit of sacrifice.
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