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Re: The ADHD body double: A unique tool for getting things done

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Post by drzaiusx11 »

drzaiusx11 wrote: post #159
onemoresoop wrote: post #32

I may have ADHD, I never went for a diagnosis and found body doubling useful at times, especially when I was in school some decades ago, back then I had no name for it. However, I find white noise very helpful with staying on the task and with increased focus. My company moved, about a year ago, into a very cramped office that is also extremely noisy. This exasperated me, I would get drained of energy in a couple of…

as an AuDHDer, noise cancellation and white noise are critical for my mental health (at work and elsewhere), but near constant _interruptions_ of my flow state by coworkers in the same physical space causes me almost visceral pain, and has only been amplified to unsustainable levels (for me) from forced RTO. I started fully remote at my current employer, so I communicate effectively and prolifically on async comm cha…

if my post above resonates with you, i can say from personal experience that inaction and carrying on the status quo (continual masking, enduring the “pain”, etc) inevitably leads to burnout and possible further mental and physical health complications. Please don’t just “tough it out”, you won’t like the end results. It takes a toll on you physically and mentally that can take months or years to recover from (if you ever do)

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Post by ascorbic »

bcoughlan wrote: post #141
Xiol32 wrote: post #46

This article is clearly written to the word count and not the overall content. A painful read.

I'm nearly certain that the images and the text are AI generated from other sources and perhaps tweaked a bit. The headings are the giveaway. Low signal-to-noise ratio. Google search results is full of this stuff, but first time seeing it at the top of HN

The article says it was originally written in 1996. It's on the site of the Attention Deficit Disorders Association. The images are generic stock photography.

Re: The ADHD body double: A unique tool for getting things done

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Post by sneak »

jvanderbot wrote: post #136
goda90 wrote: post #132

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My employer was very quick to force return to office after covid lockdowns. Like they were willing to pour millions into subdividing offices into closets so people could isolate at work even, but the county health department gave them a stern look and they ended up scraping that and waiting another year to force RTO. But they actually put their money where their mouth is. Ad-hoc conversations in the hallway, going to…

I would love an offline only work environment. Just a small cadre of tech obsessed smart folks working in a room and talking when they need to. In grad school we did this. Everyone was heads down, except when they were stumped they'd go to the whiteboard, which was open invitation to discuss a problem, if you had time. That kind of "opt in" / volunteering help was way more trust building and low pressure than pulling…

I’m quite the opposite. Whiteboards are terrible. The most productive and aligned teams I’ve ever worked on formed on irc. We don’t even know each others’ first names.

Imagine if the Linux kernel took this approach.

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Post by netsharc »

ascorbic wrote: post #173
bcoughlan wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm nearly certain that the images and the text are AI generated from other sources and perhaps tweaked a bit. The headings are the giveaway. Low signal-to-noise ratio. Google search results is full of this stuff, but first time seeing it at the top of HN

The article says it was originally written in 1996. It's on the site of the Attention Deficit Disorders Association. The images are generic stock photography.

If the URL claiming uploaded in 2015 can be believed (i.e. in the time before the Internet was 95% sewage), this could be that original article: https://www.gettingclear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Body...

It's much more fucking concise than the drivel of the republished stuff.

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Post by tass »

jvanderbot wrote: post #136
goda90 wrote: post #132

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My employer was very quick to force return to office after covid lockdowns. Like they were willing to pour millions into subdividing offices into closets so people could isolate at work even, but the county health department gave them a stern look and they ended up scraping that and waiting another year to force RTO. But they actually put their money where their mouth is. Ad-hoc conversations in the hallway, going to…

I would love an offline only work environment. Just a small cadre of tech obsessed smart folks working in a room and talking when they need to. In grad school we did this. Everyone was heads down, except when they were stumped they'd go to the whiteboard, which was open invitation to discuss a problem, if you had time. That kind of "opt in" / volunteering help was way more trust building and low pressure than pulling…

My most productive ever was being in a room of 2-4 people working on the same thing. Small conversations were encouraged but anything unrelated was taken outside.

I wish I could find that again.

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Post by AbstractH24 »

keybored wrote: post #160
AbstractH24 wrote: post #133

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I’m part of the minority of folks who think the value of in office outweighs the cost. Particularly amongst those who aren’t in management. But only if you are working in close proximity to those working on the same projects and leadership going up at least two levels. (leadership, not management) Why large companies with globally distributed teams see value in having employees in office sitting side by side in isola…

That you say “two levels” suggests formal hierarchy, which is management.

I mean, not just the people who ensure ICs show up to work and complete their task, but the people who are responsible for determining strategy, vision, and direction.

Because there is bidirectional benefit in those people having casual interactions with ICs. Both as individuals and as a group.

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Post by drowsspa »

darkwater wrote: post #105
lurkshark wrote: post #28

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Whenever I read about pair programming as a standard technique (like XP) it sounds so great in theory but in practice I find it extremely draining whenever I’ve dabbled.

In general I agree but with a caveat: for me it's draining when there is a big difference in thought speed/way of thinking between me and my peer. If I'm with someone "on the same page" we can achieve awesome results, but if OTOH I have to explain why my brain just jumped to that other part, give context etc this is terribly draining for me as well, and after a 2 hours session I'm out for 2-3 hours when I need to rec…

Yeah, I find it specially frustrating to do it with a slow reader. Like, in 2 seconds I can scan the page and see that what I need isn't there, and the other person is there taking like 1 minute to read everything... Or the opposite, there is the keyword jumping at my eyes and the other person takes so long to even find it. There's also the whole issue of the person not wanting to discuss about anything deeper other than the task immediately at hand.

But when I do with someone faster and that actually likes to discuss the implications, philosophy behind what we're doing it's amazing

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